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Is it just me or is Visual Studio a little lax in understanding when it doesn't need to build, and when it doesn't need to build.
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Chris Maunder
modified 11-May-21 10:02am.
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Not sure what you are saying here - for me, VS builds when I tell it to and at no other time ...
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Press F5. You haven't changed anything, and you only exited the app a few seconds ago. Visual Studio builds again. Oh, and the "check for build before debug" option? It's turned off.
Mother Microsoft knows best my ass.
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Debugging, running Entity framework's Update-Database command, looking at it slightly sideways. It always goes through the whole build cycle.
What happened to the days of simply tracking project dependencies and file changes, and when youhit F5 it says "nothing I care about has changed. We're done"
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Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: What happened to the days of simply tracking project dependencies and file changes, and when youhit F5 it says "nothing I care about has changed. We're done"
They ended in Visual Studio 2008, which we still use(*) for most of our development. Pilot projects moved to VS2015 and now VS2019 exhibit the problems you cite.
(*) I'm part of a software group working in a company where R&D and engineering managers are all mechanical engineers. Workflow and official documentation, even for software, therefore adheres to hardware methodologies. Changing Tools Is Bad, because then you have to do a complete product regression test, and nobody has time for that.
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I have had all kinds of fun with the Batch Build option. I think it is messed up to the point I filed a bug report and was told the issue is behavior by design. I replied that it was a very poor design.
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I've told them that about a lot of their crapware.
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Message Closed
modified 15-May-23 19:07pm.
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It must have improved since the last time I used Qt Creator. I had to do complete clean and build's because the dependency checking ignored resource changes.
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VS has not a single clue what/when to build or not, if you are not going and explicitly define the project dependencies...
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What annoys me is that if you leave the "properties" page open and close VS, next time you open the solution you get an error because VS is using the project file and can't open it twice ...
This is an annoyance when you release a new version, and then go to the assembly properties to set up the version number of the next debug edits ... which may be some weeks or months off. 
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We have several solutions that contain several projects each. When you tell it to build, it has to check each one for changes to make sure it actually has to build it.
There's a line in the output window that tells me "n succeeded; n failed; n up to date"
The numbers represented there (in my case) always represent the correct compile status. Build is different from rebuild, as I'm sure you know.
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Chris Maunder wrote: Is it just me or is Visual Studio a little lax in understanding when it doesn't need to build, and when it doesn't need to build.
Aren't these two the same...? Is VS the only one who's confused here...? 
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Visual Studio has confused me so much I can't even form logical sentences.
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Chris Maunder
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I think this is exactly what's happening. VS manages to confuse itself.
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Before there were BitCoins there were Arcade Tokens !
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: Before there were BitCoins there were Arcade Arcane Tokens!
FTFY
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If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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No one can give me a cogent explanation of how cryptocurrency works.
I'm therefore convinced it's a scam.
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Even with a cogent explanation, it's still a scam. 
TTFN - Kent
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..or you research it yourself, instead of waiting for the universe to give you the explanation it "owes" you
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I did research it. The common explanations always deteriorate into hand-waving.
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The first is limited in supply, the other is more like fiat and costs nothing to produce.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: The first is limited in supply
Who is limiting the supply of Bitcoins?
Eddy Vluggen wrote: the other is more like fiat and costs nothing to produce
Arcade Tokens definitely cost 'something' to produce. It may not be much, but it's probably more than the cost of producing a Bitcoin. So an Arcade Token does have an intrinsic value - whereas a Bitcoin's value is artificial, resulting completely from how it is managed/marketed.
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5teveH wrote: Who is limiting the supply of Bitcoins?
Math. Just so you know where to complain 
5teveH wrote: Arcade Tokens definitely cost 'something' to produce. It may not be much, but it's probably more than the cost of producing a Bitcoin
You're measurably wrong. BC's cost a lot of energy to mine; most of us can't afford that.
5teveH wrote: So an Arcade Token does have an intrinsic value
Very little, since plastic is cheap. BC has an intrinsic value since it has a use for us (that's the basis of intrinsic value, how much uses do we have and what demand does that generate?)
BC's "intrinsic" value is rising, because supply is limited and demand rising.
5teveH wrote: whereas a Bitcoin's value is artificial, resulting completely from how it is managed/marketed.
You may want to pick up a few books explaining basic economics. Also, there's no company that "owns" BC, so there's no budget for marketing.
But go ahead, explain me how the way the ECB manages "money" is superiour to decentralized non-managing based on math.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: like fiat and costs nothing to produce.
Unfortunately, if you check into bitcoin mining, the cost of production is a lot of electricity (and concomitant pollution).
My perspective: the cost of production is high and produces nothing.
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