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Sorry, I thought there was a new rule where you have to wait for the "OI" before posting.
Also, I did mention yesterday that I couldn't post until around 10am. But I appreciate the reminder anyway, as I might have forgotten. 
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Has nobody here been playing Elite Dangerous? I have only been playing for two or three weeks, but I'm slowly getting somewhere.
Asteroid mining is not really my thing. Scraping together metals and minerals in a slow and weakly armed ship until you have earned a few bucks for something better (or until some bored player decides that your ton of minerals is worth the bounty on his head). Nah.
Trading? Good to earn some money and you need a fast ship, because the desktop pirates will be after you. The good old ASP Explorer is a fine choice because it's not very expensive, fast, has a good jump range, lots of room for cargo and equipment and can even fight if it must. Being a trucker is not really exciting, but at least you can earn enough money.
Hauling around passengers and tourists is similar. Now you are a bus driver instead of a trucker. At least the pirates seem to be less interested in your cargo.
Exploring? There are 400 billion stars out there and you get good money for your sensor data. Find some star systems with resources, inhabitable planets or artifacts and you can get rich. The problem is that you are on your own out there and you must scan a lot of systems until you really find something interesting.
Piracy is not my thing, but fighting can also be profitable. Why not protect the miners in some asteroid field and collect the rewards for the pirates? Easily 3 - 7 millions in an hour. The problem is that your brand new 50+ million ship is scrapped in a few seconds when you attack the wrong pirate without a little experience. My mean trick is to pretend to be a miner and let them sneak up on me to scan my cargo. When I detect that scan, I already got two medium beam lasers and three large gatling cannons pointed at them.
So where are you guys? It's impossible that nobody here has been playing that game. And don't try to sneak up on a Krait Mk II with the name 'El Paso'. It has only loaded depleted Uranium and has it pointed at you.
And soe screenshots of the ASP Explorer (named 'Roadrunner'): Beep Beep![^]
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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GTA V. 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Do you have a bounty on your head?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Not any more. I survived a day without anyone taking it, so it expired.
Pity really, I was hoping the money would go to a good cause.
And ... I can get into the casino, buy cars, and start to build some money now.
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I swear I spent more time in GTA online with a bounty on me than without.
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I'm taking a 1 year break from all video games.
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Downloaded the free deal. Not had time to play it.
I used to have loads of time back on by BBC to play the original Elite. What happened to all the time?
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I remember playing a game called Elite, but in a different millennia.
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Yes, exactly that one. The only thing that's missing are the wireframe graphics.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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One of our services is using an archaic version of mkdirp[^] and worse, we apparently have to use a version of node that's 5 or major versions back -- 9.something rather than 14.something.
So our code is calling mkdirp with a callback function on success/fail. Besides the fact that I despise callback functions, this was probably the only way to deal with async calls before Promise became a thing (yes, I know, it's really just syntactical sugar for callback, IMO, but it is more elegant.)
Anyways, in whatever version of mkdirp "npm install" ended up using, it broke the code because the author of mkdirp stopped support a function for "opts".
1. The author didn't continue supporting a function in opts. Why the hell not?
2. Why did "npm install" not pay attention to the version specification in the dependencies file? Maybe we had specified it wrong.
3. In a "real" language, that does type checking, a change in the function signature would have been caught at compile time.
4. And really? I need to rely on an open source package to create a directory structure? Yeah yeah, cross platform compatibility and all that.
5. And relying on open source packages that the author can just change and break the world? (Yeah, I despise NuGet also, BTW, in fact, I'm beginning to despise open source packages and package versioning more and more every day. One day I'll tell you about the System.Net.Http package version hell I've been through.)
Using Node and pure Javascript is already pushing daisies as far as I'm concerned, never will use them, ever, ever, ever. All this experience did was get me to dig up the graves and drive wooden stakes through the rotting corpses of Node and Javascript, to make sure they are really dead.
I'm counting on my coworkers to continue to deal with those two demons. 
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Marc Clifton wrote: I'm counting on my coworkers to continue to deal with those two demons.
Drive a stake through the heart, embalm, cremate, and bury. Take no chances!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Yes, but what should he do about Node and JS afterward? 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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OriginalGriff wrote: what should he do about Node and JS afterward?
After following my procedure, Marc may give assistance to any that request it.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Sander Rossel wrote: What was it? Something like the package being in the GAC and in NuGet and both were incompatible, but Visual Studio preferred the GAC one, or something like that?
Yes!!! Exactly that.
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I do enjoy your rants...
Package hell the new DLL hell. Thank the great Ghu I have retired and no longer have to deal with this crap.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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The state of package management and versioning is an absolute debacle.
It's really shining a light on our collective complacency and the false dream of relying on the crowd. People do the fun stuff. And then they move on.
I still think this sums it up best 
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Marc Clifton wrote: 5. And relying on open source packages that the author can just change and break the world? (Yeah, I despise NuGet also, BTW, in fact, I'm beginning to despise open source packages and package versioning more and more every day. One day I'll tell you about the System.Net.Http package version hell I've been through.)
Meh. At least nuget doesn't inject a few minutes of build latency into an otherwise fast starting .net project to redownload all the .js I already have. ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) you very much NPM. 🤮
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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I feel the pain. I used a NPM package that produces stars to rate a product and the guy gave up on trying to keep it updated as Angular blasted past V5. And thats just one example in my collection.
They do the same thing with cars, where a 3rd party will produce aftermarket parts such as a super charger. You buy it and put it on your car, and 3 years later when you need a replacement part for it, none are available because they moved on to the next popular car. Or like Ford where the CEO decided to only support the car for 10 years and that's it, no more parts for it, buy a new car.
If it ain't broke don't fix it
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Heh, glad I was an embedded developer. I never had to put up with any of this type of stuff during my career (now retired).
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Hi,
There was something about Paint not being on Win7 to Win10, I discovered Paint.NET and not really used it for very much. It is included on Win7 up isn't it? I read something about it not being on Win10 had a look and it's still there. All the version of Windows 10 I have used appear to have it (as well as Paint3D), could it be missing on some variation of builds?..
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To the best of my knowledge, Paint is still installed with all versions of Win 10, but it's not necessarily added to the start menu.
To run it, try a search for "paint" and the app will appear.
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Will dis-app-here ever be that popular?
(Ok I'll get my coat. It's not even Friday...  )
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Paint is available on Windows 10, but the functionality has changed slightly.
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