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(Inspired by some truly atrocious driving seen by me this morning)
Would you call a person who earned their driving license in the back seat a back-seat driver?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Why do most drivers appear to have got their licences from a Christmas Cracker?
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OriginalGriff wrote: got their licences from a Christmas Cracker
So are they are known as crack drivers?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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In Israel the problem with most of the drivers is not that they do not know now how to drive - on the contrary they know better than anyone (including those set up traffic rules/signs)... And of course their time is much more valuable than anybody's life...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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I don't think that applies only to Israel. If you want to see really bad driving, then take a trip to Bangalore. My first taxi ride from airport to hotel convinced me that the driver wanted my death on his hands. But here in the UK (at least in the South East) things are pretty grim in the rush hour.
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You probably right - I never drive nowhere else, but had near-death experience with taxi driver on the Burgas-Nessebar road...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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So just imagine if you lived somewhere with a warmer climate - and the road was slick with compressed slush and/or "black ice"[^]. The latter is dangerous even when walking as it is often quite invisible. That "had near-death experince" would likely be "had yet another near-death experience". All of them are excellent drivers - just ask them.
Here (alas, not just locally), stopping for red-lights, stop-signs, and generally using signals is, apparently optional. Particularly so for SUV drivers - must be part of the warranty or something.
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The six crossroads ? 
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Easy peasy ... try the "magic roundabout" in Hemel Hempstead.
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When I went to Crete I asked, "Which side of the road do you drive on?"
The answer, "The shady side." 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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The 64 Euro question (in my alleged mind):
Do people drive that way because they bought a BMW or did they buy a BMW because they drive that way?
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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If said person was driving from the back seat, I'd call them 'tall.'
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90% of people think they are a better driver than everyone else.
The other 10% know they are a better driver than everyone else.
It is one of things all of humanity has in common.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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I think a lot of drivers in the US bought their licenses during a Blue-Light Special (at Kmart).
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obermd wrote: ... bought their licenses during a Blue-Light Special (at Kmart)
That's not nearly insulting enough for the allegedly licensed driver whose actions I witnessed.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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No, that's reserved for the guy who puts his golf clubs in the back seat.
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Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Many years ago (but well within my lifetime) an English acquaintance of mine spent some years in Jamaica. There they taught themselves to "drive", and acquired a driving license (which involved filling in a form and paying a fee, nothing else). On their return to the UK the DVLA (or whatever it was at the time) was quite happy to accept their Jamaican license as proof they could drive, and issued a full UK license with no need for a test. (As it happens, they were pretty good drivers, fortunately).
I don't know if such arrangements still exist, but I suspect they - or very similar - still do 
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We had similar issues starting in the 1990's with immigrants from the former Soviet Union, who came with driver's licenses that often proved nothing more than that they could afford to pay the fee. The Israeli Ministry of Transport then required everyone who immigrated to pass the full driver's test (written + practical) before converting a foreign license to an Israeli one.
(Israel is a signatory to the various international driver's license agreements, so most tourists can still use their foreign licenses in Israel.)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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The UK Government seems to be doing it's utmost to avoid using the word "passport", when discussing Covid Passports Covid Status Certificates - and I don't understand why. A passport, by definition, is something that provides you the freedom to travel, participate, enter, etc. That sounds like a good thing, to me!
Admittedly, those that oppose the whole idea, seem to have managed to hijack the word "passport" to imply it's bad. But do the Government think that, by using different words, no-one will realise what they are?
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5teveH wrote: But do the Government think that, by using different words, no-one will realise what they are?
Not "no-one"... but many will miss the connection. Until the next meme does it's rounds to "educate" them that they are the same thing.
You seem to underestimate how stupid most people are. I mean, you even say yourself about the people that have been convinced that "passport" is bad. Gullible fools, and the governments know this well.
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musefan wrote: Gullible fools, and the governments know this well.
Basically what you say is correct, but this part needs some enhancement.
It's not just the government that knows they're gullible but those who have convinced them not to get vaccinated, not to wear masks, not to socially distance, and in some cases, know for sure that the government is trying to 'chip' them.
Hypothesis: those that get most if not all of their information via that electronic device that never leaves there hand have come to think of it as part of themselves, or, at least, their dearest friend that relieves their loneliness. In all things they trust it's certainty and unequivocal truth . . . basically a planet full of morons.
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Quote: a planet full of morons.
There's your problem right there!  ...unfortunately true.
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I think it's a damn good idea - and I don't really care what name they use.
The NHS already records your vaccination status (and Covid test results) against your medical record anyway, so why not have a piece of paper that lets others know you are a bit safer than a total stranger?
If it lets people relax a little and opens up the economy a bit as well without increasing the risk factors, that's got to be a good thing.
Unless of course you decide not to take the offered vaccine ... in which case it acts as a IQ card as well ... 
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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modified 8-Apr-21 6:18am.
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HNS ?
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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