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Joan M wrote: But the AMD thing is harder to get than Moby Dick... 
That should tell you something though. Those AMD APUs really are amazing. Good luck.
Real programmers use butterflies
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You don't mention the drive? Keep in mind that modern M.2 NVMe SSDs are significantly faster than older SATA style SSDs.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Practically all high=end laptops these days support NVMe drives, and they are upgradable. The CPU and screen - less so.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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True! I did not realize he was referring to a laptop.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I've posted only the differences between devices, all other things are +/- the same: 32GB RAM, 1 or 2 TB NVMe SSD, <1.2kg, ...
So yes, any of those would be good about SSD.
Thanks for your post!
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You need a time frame; in a couple of months, things may change again.
Also, AMD is segmenting crypto "miners" and "other" GPU's to help bring prices down.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Sure, but I've been waiting since September to get the laptop, mine has run out of warranty and Lenovo can't provide me a new one... ^^¡
It must last from 4 to 5 years and I don't want to wait more...
It will be:
Thinkpad X1 carbon gen 9 (Intel i7-1165G7)
Thinkpad T14s Gen 2 (AMD zen 3 5800U)
Thinkpad T14s Gen 1 (AMD zen 2 4750U)
Maybe the carbon (with more display) would be the best one to get.
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With 16:10 I can see four more rows of posts on Codeproject without scrolling.
The same is also valid for VS.
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Yes, that's interesting...
I noticed immediately the reduction of lines when manufacturers went from 4:3 to 16:9... slowly all the IDEs out there adapted to the new layout and now it seems everything tends to go back normal... ^^¡
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Indeed, the only reason for going to 16:9 is that TVs are using that format, but noone is asking for it for laptops. It's just misguided marketing.
On the contrary, I have always checked for the aspect ration when buying laptops or monitors.
If I can get it I want 15:10 or 3:2.
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if you are buying the cheaper one.
If the company is buying. The more expensive one?
just a thought.
They will both work
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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B:
- after using intel for years, I'm over all the flaws that have forced microcode updates which have made processors about 50% slower than when we bought them
- you mention aspect ratio, but not actual screen size, so the only comment I have there is that 16:9 matches typical 1080p, meaning fewer times I'd have black bars on the sides of the screen for, eg, video. I'd rather have height than width for a screen anyway - more lines of code on the screen.
- usb c over thunderbolt: I have a Dell which had a TB dock and it was problematic: TB allows direct memory access from the device (like firewire does) so a dodgy device means an unhappy laptop. Currently I'm using a Lenovo USB-C dock without any issues on the same Dell.
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If you say that getting the money
is the most important thing
You will spend your life
completely wasting your time
You will be doing things
you don't like doing
In order to go on living
That is, to go on doing things
you don't like doing
Which is stupid.
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would have to hard disagree with you on TB being more future-proof: the future is USB: TB and FW were (imo) hacks to get around older USB speed limitations. USB-C (esp v4) is the way of the future; however the point is moot in that the TB-enabled laptops do so via a usb-c connector and the port can function as usb-c anyway.
Something that I've found to be of great value on a laptop is a good display - the intel variants all seem to have good ones, but with the AMD variants, you'll need to specifically ask for a display with > 400nits (there's variants with only 250!). One of the biggest complaints I had with co-worker's Lenovos is that I can't see their screens when we pair where my Dell is beautiful from all angles. And it's not as if I'm trying to sell Dell here - rather that it's something I didn't think about checking until I saw a mac vs my dell vs other's lenovos and the first two have really great displays, where the lenovos i saw were... not great. So when you pick one of these, check on the display option!
Other than that, a lot of this seems to be if you want to go Team Red (AMD) or Team Blue (Intel). My recent experiences with Intel have steered me towards my next desktop upgrade being AMD, so I'd be biased that way anyway. The AMD laptop you've linked is significantly heaver than the Intel one tho. Battery life seems to be about the same.
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If you say that getting the money
is the most important thing
You will spend your life
completely wasting your time
You will be doing things
you don't like doing
In order to go on living
That is, to go on doing things
you don't like doing
Which is stupid.
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Yep both seem nice machines, I would also prefer the AMD versions, but given my current success ratio with that... 
I think the best buy would be the T14s Gen 2 AMD 5800U, but who knows when will arrive and if it will be available or (like the 4750U will be only an impossible to get desire) and believe me, our company is a lenovo partner and we buy directly at importing companies (where shops buy) but even that, it's been completely impossible to get one.
I'm used to my current T460s, but I will get at least those 400 nits.
I guess at the end I will get the first one that I can get.
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Joan M wrote: Never used Thunderbolt before, but it seems more future proof.
Wouldn't bet to much on it.
USB is a standard created by the USB-consortium, while Thunderbolt is a superset on the standard created by Intel.
There is nothing that says that the next generation USB, will be backwards compatible with Thunderbolt.
On the other hand, there's nothing that says it won't. After all, Intel is a member of the consortium.
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16:9 and usb c are both more standard than the others, so I would prefer it. I've often had so many problems with non-standard displays and ports, that I look the other way when I see something that doesn't fit. The slight difference in speed or display area is not worth it.
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In case you were answering my question, could you please elaborate a little bit?
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16:10 + whatever you prefer + usb c
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Riposte and revolt leads to retaliation. (13)
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Counterstrike ?
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Yep.
That makes you the Man of Tomorrow.
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Counterattack?
Just based on what it sounds per meaning. Nothing else to corelate.
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"Dr. Craig Wright", the inventor of BTC (he claims), says he got hacked and someone encrypted his passwords. He is suing "blockchain developers" to get access back to his BTC (in excess of £3.65 billion ... so he says).
What do Tesla, BTC and GameStop have in common? Tesla is "valued" at $1 Trillion. 
Does it get any better?
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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