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honey the codewitch wrote: My setup is a factory install of windows home edition with visual studio and VS code on it, plus a VM for running linux
Win10 Home lets you run VMs?
Wait. I'm thinking Hyper-V. So, you're using a third-party.
Carry on. 
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I use VMWare Player. It's not fancy, but it's reliable, and it even got my old linux hard drive I yanked out of a dying machine to boot in the VM.
So yeah, can recommend. It's an excellent free tool.
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Used to be a fan of theirs (I was introduced to the world of VMs with their Workstation product) until their prices kept going up and up. My employer could justify it, but not myself, especially after MS had started bundling Hyper-V right into Windows.
I've never looked into Player. If Hyper-V gave me a reason to look elsewhere (and so far it hasn't), it would be at the top of the list. I refuse to deal with VirtualBox, which is owned by that other hellspawn company.
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VirtualBox is garbage. It doesn't even carry USB through properly at least when running on a linux host OS, virtualizing windows.
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Good to know. I never even tried it.
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honey the codewitch wrote: I guess I could come crawling back to apple after almost 35 years of avoiding them.
Ask yourself: Should you buy into the promise the grass is greener...?
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It's not so much about trust as it is exhausting all of my options. 
I mean, can it really do worse to me than Linux has? (Operating system not found after an update - fairly consistently to the point where i got used to manually patching the MBR after every update)
I almost certainly won't do it, but the fact that I've been driven to the point where it even occurred to me is more than a little disappointing.
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honey the codewitch wrote: can it really do worse to me than Linux has? (Operating system not found after an update - fairly consistently to the point where i got used to manually patching the MBR after every update)
I've been bitten by this one on more than one occasion, and for the most part, my Linux instances are all running as VMs - what should, by now, be a well-known virtualized configuration, and not on bare metal, which means a lot of the unknown/strange/uncommon hardware is removed from the equation. How updates can still mess that up is puzzling to say the least.
honey the codewitch wrote: I almost certainly won't do it, but the fact that I've been driven to the point where it even occurred to me is more than a little disappointing.
I'd still take their hardware, I just refuse to give them any money for it. AKA, my justification for owning a used MacBook laptop.
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The problem is choosing a host OS. That's my issue. I've also considered Windows 7
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While I still like 7, with its lack of updates, it's becoming a liability.
My VM host is Server 2012 R2, which I got through my MSDN subscription. I'm still a little too uneasy with Linux to rely on it to host my VMs, which I need to "just work" for work and beyond.
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For starters I'm 25 and I want to be a software developer. The issue is though is that I got arrested a few years ago and long story short it didn't result in a conviction and the arrest got expunged. Since then despite the outcomes I've been very skeptical about getting a software job. I've been looking to go the freelancing route but I only know python and I'm still trying to build up a portfolio. Is freelancing worth it?
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Freelancing has many benefits and drawbacks, so it is not easy to say whether it is the right choice for you. Your personal history is irrelevant to your decision unless it has a direct bearing on your ability to work. The most important thing to start with is that you have good solid experience in multiple languages and frameworks, as you have to go where the work is. With only some Python experience I think you may struggle to find work. It may be an idea to talk to recruitment agencies in your locality to see what skills are in demand and whether freelance work is called for.
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If it got expunged and there was no conviction what's the problem? Just don't mention it on your resume, and if your prospective employer gives you an application they aren't planning on your being a coder for them - you'll be cleaning the office. So there's no box to check about whether you've been arrested before or not (and even if there was you could avoid checking it on the basis of it being expunged)
I'm a freelancer. It would be a pretty bad idea to try to learn the ropes while freelancing. Spend some years working for a dev house or two so you can learn how to do this professionally.
The *only* way to learn how to write software properly professionally is learning from others on the job.
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look tbh i get what you're saying, but i rather be a freelancer instead of walking into a job and risk having the arrest show up in a background check. Besides idk if your little "you'll be cleaning the office" comment was an insult as well or not, but thanks for the reply i guess
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Try not to take this the wrong way, but if you are going to take everything as an insult, you aren't going to get far with either route.
Also, if the arrest shows up on a background check, then it hasn't been expunged (or you probably have good grounds for a lawsuit).
Regardless, even if your employer did find out somehow, you are legally entitled to withhold that information, so they cannot hold it against you for not disclosing it with them.
The reality is, if you want to be a software developer then you need to start from the bottom. That isn't a freelancer role, you need to find a junior role in employment. It's not going to be easy as you don't seem to have any relevant qualifications. So the best you can do is sell your experience, which probably means you need to start building a portfolio of "personal projects". Maybe invest in some training courses if you can budget for them. And be prepared for a lot of disappointing interviews!
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so are you telling i can take legal action against a company who finds out i have an arrest record thats not suppose to be available to them? I dont see how thats suppose to work.
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Nope. Not saying that at all.
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Throwaway888xxxx wrote: and risk having the arrest show up in a background check.
Arrests do not show up in background checks. Only convictions.
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Marc Clifton wrote: Arrests do not show up in background checks. Only convictions.
well thats not what i heard from other people mainly here on the internet.
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Throwaway888xxxx wrote:
well thats not what i heard from other people mainly here on the internet.
Get out of doubts, ask for one yourself and be 100% sure.
If other existential problems were so easy to solve... 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Throwaway888xxxx wrote: I've been very skeptical about getting a software job
Why are you sceptical about getting a job?
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I think he meant he's worried he won't be able to get one given his background.
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I guess as much, but... what background? It only exists for him on a personal level. Professionally, it doesn't exist.
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That's what I said. =)
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Because despite it being expunged and that there was no conviction you really think an employer is gonna care about that?
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