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When was the last time you used Edge? If you wanted the rendering experience of Chrome without the spying and backed by a company that can keep you regularly updated with security fixes and modern web standards (ie, bump their chromium dependency regularly), then Edge is a good choice.
Starts up faster than Chrome - probably because it's not packed full of stuff which has no place in a browser - like remote desktop sharing.
I run Gentoo on my main home machine (primary browser is Firefox), so I'm sometimes inclined to spelunk through sources. Firefox compressed source: 323mb vs Chromium compressed source: 817mb. Chromium is packed full of stuff like the aforementioned remote desktop code and heaps of other third-party stuff, on top of the built-in crapware. It's literally on my system as a backup browser for "is this site broken everywhere?". It takes around 6-8x longer to build.
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If you say that getting the money
is the most important thing
You will spend your life
completely wasting your time
You will be doing things
you don't like doing
In order to go on living
That is, to go on doing things
you don't like doing
Which is stupid.
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The Edge part was only a joke - I think it _really_ is a matter of taste.
Concerning Edge particularly, I am still suffering from the Internet Explorer experience, especially since I was forced to use it during many years because of company policies (which were probably legit from a company point of view), but it will take time to heal the wounds and I have not reached that point. So definitely a veto from my side for the moment.
Concerning spying, all web browsers are spying to some extent (there is no such thing as a free product), some more, some less, so this is sadly no point which I would consider to influence my choice.
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I feel you pain, having had to "fix" a site which only broke on IE6, many moons ago.
The sad part is that the engine Microsoft put in the original Edge was actually rather good -- whilst the version of IE at the time shared the same engine, they had a bunch of flags to make IE compatible with all the bugs in the past, which people had built internal software on. Microsoft has this constant tension between trying to keep as much backwards compatibility as possible and fixing stuff that's clearly broken: their official stance is to try to keep things alive and compatible as long as possible, since it's in the interests of their users (and, ultimately, themselves) that things continue to "Just Work". Windows is a great example: you can still run Win3.1 executables on it!
Sadly, they can never please everyone: for every person who is mad about, eg IE being rubbish, there are a bunch of corporates using some old system that requires the brokenness that's in IE ):
They only gave up on their own engines (Trident and Chakra) because it made more business sense to hitch their carts to an existing rendering & JS engine that has someone else spending time (read: money) on it, so they chose Chromium's renderer, but honestly have ripped out all the Chrome bs. Whilst I'm a Firefox person, I'd take Edge in a heartbeat over Chrome / Chromium / Brave. Microsoft has done a lot of turnaround since Ballmer left and Satya Nadella took the helm.
For the user, the loss of Trident and Chakra (the modern versions, which were, I re-iterate, Rather Good) is a bad thing: there are essentially only two contenders in the renderer space now: Chromium and Firefox. One could argue a case for Safari's webkit, I guess. Anyway, it means that we're edging closer to another "IE situation" where a dominant browser can start implementing things that aren't standards or implementing standards incorrectly and people assume that when it doesn't work on another browser, that other browser must be broken. Google has already taken quite a few stabs at this stance (Polymer / WebComponents being a good example: when they shifted YouTube to use WebComponents, which were non-standard, but natively supported by Chrome, all non-Chrome users got a rubbish YouTube experience and, naturally, blamed their browser).
On the spying front: there are free products (truly free), but they're scarce (all the software that I release for free is truly free, for example, not that I'm releasing browsers or anything useful like that!).
Mozilla does allow you to opt out of basically everything from the options page. I say "basically everything" because, eg, things like addon installs are still tracked (so you can rate & others can see install counts on the addons page). If I had to rank browsers based on how they respect the user, I'd definitely start with Firefox and then Edge. But to each their own. I don't expect to be a dark entity on the web, but if I can make the lives of the zuck-fairies a little harder, I'm all for it.
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If you say that getting the money
is the most important thing
You will spend your life
completely wasting your time
You will be doing things
you don't like doing
In order to go on living
That is, to go on doing things
you don't like doing
Which is stupid.
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Well, in my experience, Chrome indeed sucks. But overall, I do have a different order of preference to web browsers, as for me, in order it would be
1. Firefox (and on Windows, I use a lot a fork called Waterfox, as that allows to run some older add-ons, which don't exist since they changed their API, or the newer versions aren't as capable or easily usable as the old ones
2. Opera, though they are working hard on messing up this once great browser
3. Yeah, that would be Chrome, as the rest is even more atrocious...
4. through 10.no particular browser
11. Edge, I give them a little bit of credit for at least trying to create a better browser
12. Safari, it just stinks
13. Internet Exploder. No further comment necessary. And it wouldn't show up for me at all if there weren't some applications that require that old beast, because some custom ActiceX components won't run on Edge (a lot of security camera UIs are using those)
And there is all the rest...
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Thank you for the article. May I say I will only consider browsers which support Norton "Safe Search" unless there is another manner to provide the same security. In case you do not know Norton "Safe Search" informs re/ the safety of links provided by its search engine. I do not know how it is possible to utilize the web without such a benefit. Kind Regards Cheerios
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give me a break. chrome is the best browser.
maybe second to firefox. chrome syncs better. firefox uses less memory.
the author uses Edge, sooooooooooo - to me that means the author is insane.
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That's a really inconsistent shitpost. Ranting about Chrome being a memory hog is fine, but if you do that you need to acknowledge that reskinned Chromium browsers (ie Edge and Opera) also devour ram as if you have a few terabytes of the stuff.
And then...
Quote: Java is pre-installed (read: you don’t need java), flash crashes constantly.
... wait what!?!?!?!??! Is this rant recycled from 2010 or something? Java's been banned from Chrome since 2015 unless you're using a dumpsterfire like IEtab (in which case a) you installed it, and b) it's IE not chrome); and flash was a few weeks from being removed when that was written and had been effectively dead for several years before then.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I got to the part about how much memory it uses and didn't bother with the rest.
That was the case several years ago. It is now far more memory efficient.
<shaming>
I know this, because I was shown the error of my ways in a technical debate I had a while back, when I suggested it was a memory eater.
</shaming>
It would want 8GB just to open a single default home page. Now It uses less that 1GB for the multitude of tabs that I have open at any given time.
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.
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Chrome is still the only browser that will periodically freeze up for 10-30 seconds of apparent garbage collecting when reducing its memory footprint on my work machine from 10-12gb to 2-4gb.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Feel free to downvote if you consider this upvote driving. But if you like to play around with Mandelbrots, I've just updated my fractal browser so you can save and open fractals, among other items! If you are bored on a Saturday night, hope this alleviates your problem!
(It doesn't show as being updated, but it has a 1/16/21 update at the beginning of the article, unless CP hides revisions until after they've been reviewed.)
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The exe download seems to be broken...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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Thank you for pointing it out. They are now working, but I had to jury-rig them because CP's system seemed to be broken. I'll post it on bugs-n-sugs to prompt a final solution.
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I think there must be something wrong, I keep on zooming and it is always showing the same shape.
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Is this a real problem, or a subtle joke about the nature of fractals? Mousewheel zoom is all it takes. Of course, if you don't have a mousewheel on your system, you'll have to code up a different solution.
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David O'Neil wrote: a subtle joke about the nature of fractals
This exactly 
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First time that my garlic comes up any significant, so I do not know if there is any relation between the thickness of the stem and the bulb size to be, but if there I may have some apple-size garlic bulbs down in the soil...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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There are, of course, different breeds of garlic, but I've always found that the really grow best after a good solid freeze - often poking through the snow in late February. If it's elephant garlic, then apples sized is about normal (depending upon the type of apples you like).
Somehow, it doesn't seem like this post will be at all helpful.
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I hope this garlic will be good with a bit of cold (3-5 C) as show and freezing cold is not guaranteed here, just because we call it winter 
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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I don't really think so, no. I've grown heaps of garlic.
Size is also not an indicator of quality. I tell my wife that all the time
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Yes, generally speaking the thicker the stem the bigger the bulb. You'll find out in the summer.
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Everybody else. 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Everyone loses when the Beeb is involved...everyone.
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On the same note, if all politicians, bankers and lawyers were sitting in lifeboats on the North Atlantic in the middle of a raging storm, who would be saved?
The world.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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