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Nelek1-Dec-20 11:27

Nelek

1-Dec-20 11:27

BabyYoda wrote:
If you vaccinate yourself and your kids then why do you care if anyone else does or does not vaccinate? You're protected, right?

Not necessarily. The vaccine will reduce the chances, yes. But not avoid it 100%.

IIRC to "defeat" a disease you need a 95% to 98% of the population to be "inmune" so the virus will dead in a natural process. And that % of not vaccinated might be already full with people that can't get it because of medical conditions, age or other biological reasons.

Have a look to rubeola / measles, it was supposed to be "defeated" and it is coming back pretty fast in europe.

As others said... either we can't really do anything in our own, we need to act together for almost every aspect in our life. This is not an exception.

M.D.V.

If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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BabyYoda2-Dec-20 1:03

BabyYoda

2-Dec-20 1:03

Nelek wrote:
But not avoid it 100%.

Oh, that's the first I have heard that. Interesting.

Nelek2-Dec-20 2:08

Nelek

2-Dec-20 2:08

There are many vaccines that can't make you (as one person) 100% immune. But if enough people is let's say 95% immune is almost the same.

M.D.V.

BabyYoda2-Dec-20 3:15

BabyYoda

2-Dec-20 3:15

I see. That makes sense. Thanks. Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:

Gerry Schmitz1-Dec-20 18:05

Gerry Schmitz

1-Dec-20 18:05

You're in your bubble, maybe underground, and because "it" hasn't touched you, "it just isn't bad".

Then you spin off about getting vaccinated and ask if "that's ok?"

May the farce be with you.

It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

BabyYoda2-Dec-20 1:02

BabyYoda

2-Dec-20 1:02

Gerry Schmitz wrote:
and because "it" hasn't touched you, "it just isn't bad".

Then you have misunderstood my point.

Mike Hankey1-Dec-20 7:18

Mike Hankey

1-Dec-20 7:18

No it proves that a lot of people are of a mind that its all about them. That everything and everyone are there but to serve their needs and above all that they somehow deserve it.

I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27.

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W∴ Balboos, GHB1-Dec-20 7:25

W∴ Balboos, GHB

1-Dec-20 7:25

There was an article I read, yesterday, basically ripping a new one for those who just had to have gatherings for Thanksgiving (and for that matter, the giant party goers, &etc.). It's content is most definitely in violation of the Lounge policy - I wouldn't pretend otherwise.

Pretty much, but in many more words, it is in agreement with your post.

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Maximilien1-Dec-20 6:09

Maximilien

1-Dec-20 6:09

The few things we've learned so far :

Our healthcare system was not prepared for that; for decades we focused on different kind of illnesses (I assume mostly cancer and other non or low infectious diseases)

Our dependence on 3rd party (countries) for our chain of supply for critical products (PPE, apparatus, vaccines, medications...)

The Old Folks Residences are way too easily infected, and because of close care needs, it is hard to keep them infection free, especially for people who need close physical contact for cares.

No one and everyone is to blame.

I'd rather be phishing!

W∴ Balboos, GHB1-Dec-20 7:34

W∴ Balboos, GHB

1-Dec-20 7:34

Maximilien wrote:
for decades we focused on different kind of illnesses

A a pandemeic response group had been set up (in the US) and it was disbanded (May 2018).

I'll stop here lest I make this soapbox fodder.

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Dan Neely1-Dec-20 10:17

Dan Neely

1-Dec-20 10:17

OriginalGriff wrote:
And what have we learned from this pandemic? Sod all, it looks like ...

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s hiding bite wounds.

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GuyThiebaut1-Dec-20 6:54

GuyThiebaut

1-Dec-20 6:54

What are you hoping that a bunch of software developers, scattered around the world in different countries, will do based on your post?

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

― Christopher Hitchens

Gerry Schmitz1-Dec-20 18:13

Gerry Schmitz

1-Dec-20 18:13

In case you've been spending all your time gaming.

I hope it helps someone realize there is a problem. Just like the misconceptions about "rags" or a proper N95 mask.

What's your point?

It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

GuyThiebaut1-Dec-20 19:05

GuyThiebaut

1-Dec-20 19:05

Do you think it would be an unfair criticism of your posts to say that you seem to be looking for some sort of argument and you are provoking people into an argument?

As others have mentioned I think posts I have seen from you are really more soapbox material than lounge material.

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OriginalGriff1-Dec-20 4:42

OriginalGriff

1-Dec-20 4:42

Is an undead cheese a Zombrie?

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megaadam1-Dec-20 5:17

megaadam

1-Dec-20 5:17

Are you Stilton that old question? I thought we knew each Cheddar.

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modified 1-Dec-20 11:27am.

jeron11-Dec-20 5:43

jeron1

1-Dec-20 5:43

Do they edam and smile?

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Richard MacCutchan1-Dec-20 5:47

Richard MacCutchan

1-Dec-20 5:47

If true you would need to tread Caerphilly.

Google translate has gotten scary good

W∴ Balboos, GHB1-Dec-20 5:58

W∴ Balboos, GHB

1-Dec-20 5:58

I heard they the undead eat moenster cheese and carrion horribly if they don't get it.

Which brings up a question I've had burning in my mind for several seconds, already:
Is mozzarella a Passover umbrella ?

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honey the codewitch30-Nov-20 22:59

honey the codewitch

30-Nov-20 22:59

I just got an issue report for my Midi Library (at github bit it's also here)

It contained the problem, clear steps to reproduce the problem and was very specific.

It was also in chinese.

Google translated it to near perfect English. I had no trouble understanding any of it. It could have been written by an English speaker. Holy socks batman!

Real programmers use butterflies

OriginalGriff30-Nov-20 23:14

OriginalGriff

30-Nov-20 23:14

It's pretty damn good these days - getting to the point where you don't need to learn another language at all!

Amarnath S1-Dec-20 0:31

Amarnath S

1-Dec-20 0:31

A user sent me this error message, from a language which I can't even recognize, for my article - DICOM Image Viewer[^], and Google Translation could enable me to pinpoint the error.

Richard MacCutchan1-Dec-20 1:44

Richard MacCutchan

1-Dec-20 1:44

It's Turkish.

Amarnath S1-Dec-20 1:46

Amarnath S

1-Dec-20 1:46

What I meant was that Google Translate auto-detected the language.