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Civilized: wants to breed, sure - but not at the expense of killing or permanently damaging it's host.
We live with a lot of "adult diseases": they infect us, breed and infect others - but they do it with an eye to the long term, rather than just short term gain. Killing the host is a poor long term strategy compared to being able to reinfect him again next year!
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Mainly, though, so long as the host lives long enough (and is capable of when contagious) to spread to at least one more host then it will work out.
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I have read similar articles and yes, it is scary.
It almost seems that the after effects on the body (damage, etc.) are far worse then the actual infection period, when non-life threatening, of course.
modified 2-Nov-20 13:45pm.
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Yes, after the initial effects it seems more like Syphillis, and I can't think of few things worse.
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Don't take this the wrong way, it isn't aimed at you personally, but at people not understanding what the flu is.
There is no such thing as "just the flu". The flu is something people die from.
It's also something you might get once or twice in a lifetime. What most people think is a flu is just a cold.
When my daughter was one week old she and my wife both got the flu (H3N2) and they both became hospitalized for a week.
While my daughter is fine nowadays, my wife was knocked out for months, and she still has the cough every winter since eight years now and probably has to live with it. Lung damage after the flu is normal.
1988 1989 I got the Flu (H1N1), and also went to hospital for two days.
Last year my father died from flu induced pneumonia. Well at least it was quick.
<edit>corrected year.
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modified 2-Nov-20 13:16pm.
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Well - admittedly, most people with the flu/cold dilemma don't go having themselves tested for precisely which one it is.
But the differences between the two are pretty easily enumerated (CDC)[^]
Now, once upon a time, dying from the flu was basically "death by natural causes" - certainly in my grandmother's generation this was true.
But your declaration - that the flu is something you get "once or twice in a lifetime" - on what basis do you make that declaration. You clearly do the alphabet soup (H3N2, H1N1, and there are others) and that should indicate to you that the flu live in variations and thus degrees of severity. Hell - there are currently, and have been for quite a while, other forms of COVID going around . . . typically mistaken for a cold.
The virulence of the flu varies a good deal on the sub-type[^]. The most common bad-actor subtypes are of the type A flu strains. Type B generally doesn't cause as much grief. Type C, comparatively uncommon, was also described as very mild.
Your experience with a couple of the bad ones, and sever reactions at that - by no means indicates that all the other flu cases were probably colds. Recheck the symptom chart: most people can tell how they fell lousy.
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I have had the flu (not cold virus) 8 times in my lifetime, confirmed, by a doctor. I have the medical records to prove it.
Now that I am an insulin dependent diabetic, I am more at risk for EVERYTHING in the ENTIRE universe, current, future, and make believe.
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Not sure where that 2-3 came from? Well, in a response, it was said that some physician told him so.
Fortunately, I don't have much faith in physician's, as a group.
One of my good ones proved his worth, or certainly enhanced it, when I asked a question related to his specialty and he replied "we don't know". In it's various forms, that phrase is apparently beaten out of medical students early in their schooling. It's the reason that real sciences progress much more rapidly and typically have better predictive capability.
I rate "medical science's" predictive capability at roughly the same level as meteorology.
The more I learned about diabetes, the more I realized how really sucky it is. Usually, not at first - but as you noted, it has many insidious effects. On top of that, there's the organ damage that goes on. Insulin helps control (at least slow) the progress and damage - but a cure for that is really needed. Maybe, after they sort out COVID, they can continue the extreme marshaling of resources and make some real and accelerated progress.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: Well - admittedly, most people with the flu/cold dilemma don't go having themselves tested for precisely which one it is.
It's done if you get hospitalized.
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: But your declaration - that the flu is something you get "once or twice in a lifetime"
That's from the doc when my daughter was sick, I suspect there might be some leeway on that number.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: That's from the doc when my daughter was sick, I suspect there might be some leeway on that number.
Enough said.
I've found, unfortunately, the the competency of the medical community is "not on the rise". One good MD I had has recently retired - and the replacement I found has yet to impress me. We (myself & Mrs. Wife) have dumped quite a few of the nit-wit level and greedy level. In either case, unlike the mythical James Bond, these guys do have a license to kill. You know, that old line of how "Doctors bury their mistakes". I won't extend this to a tome, but the stories, even first-person, are aplenty.
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Sorry to hear that.
Hope your wife health will improve.
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Thank the great Ghu Queensland closed its borders and went into lock down very early and yet some pollies, namely the Australian prime minister, wanted to open the borders months ago - idiot!
The worst I have had is the "man flu" - yeah a sniffly nose. Hope you get a good outcome.
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Best wishes to you and your missus. I couldn't imagine the fear/anxiety of not being able to breathe properly. Like they say "nothing else matters when you can't breathe...". Today is my 1st day back at work after nearly 3 weeks of isolation. I was indeed very fortunate as my symptoms were very mild, and even more so that my wife and child didn't contract it.
Hope all turns out well. ![Rose | [Rose]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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Best wishes to Mrs. OG - hopefully will recover very soon...
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Hope she gets well soon.
Best wishes for you both!
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I was reading this: A Preclinical safety study of thyroid hormone instilled into the lungs of healthy rats - an investigational therapy for ARDS. - ClinOwl[^] this morning and was thinking of you guys.
It's such an odd situation. I personally know about 5 people who have had it, but never saw them while they were actually ill. It's all around us but in an odd way, no where. Nowhere visible, that is. I don't even see people with the usual Autumn colds sniffling and sneezing.
I guess that's why there's a solid group of people who still feel it's all a hoax.
Anyway, an unusual year but I'm very, very glad you're both (more or less) on the mend and still here with us!
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I know what you mean about the sniffles - it's odd to think that there may be a beneficial effect to all this in that almost nobody will be spreading colds around the office! 
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Is the Hepatitis B a dangerous insect?
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Rhino virus worries you but most of them Flu away -
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I would visit the Hepatitis C only when the Swine Flu.
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So my son is learning the piano and for that purpose we have an electric piano (Roland FP-30).
And when we bought this piano the sole purpose was to properly learn to play a piano, so it has 88 fully weighted keys, an earphone connector (that was on my personal list of demands) and very little else.
But it apparently has Midi. So now my son wants a soundbox of some kind to play around with. It could be a nice Christmas present I suppose, if not overly expensive.
This isn't the type of Midi with a five pin DIN-connector that existed when I was younger. No it's USB type B or even Bluetooth.
I don't have a clue where to start looking, but I know we have some musicians on the forum, so I though I can pop some questions here and at least get a few pointers in the right direction.
What would a reasonable setup be?
Is Bluetooth really useful for this purpose?
Is it possible to route the sound back to the piano so I don't have to buy an amplifier or connect it to the stereo?
Maybe I should look for some software and connect a laptop instead?
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: What would a reasonable setup be?
I asked my son and he recommended this setup[^].  Jörgen Andersson wrote: Is Bluetooth really useful for this purpose?
No, not reliable enough.Jörgen Andersson wrote: Is it possible to route the sound back to the piano so I don't have to buy an amplifier or connect it to the stereo?
Probably, but it will sound sh*tty.Jörgen Andersson wrote: Maybe I should look for some software and connect a laptop instead?
Yes, cakewalk comes to mind (probably $$$$). But I think that would be the best compromise.
Alternatively, you can use a tracker SW like renoise, which is a bit different in the handling but much, much easier and quicker to learn and get results with.
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Rage wrote: I asked my son and he recommended this setup
Ok, there goes my plans for a house in Provence. 
Rage wrote: cakewalk comes to mind (probably $$$$)
I'm probably finding the wrong cakewalk, because it's free. 
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Looks like Cakewalk is high on that list.
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