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OriginalGriff wrote: And Income Tax ... a "temporary measure" that one was
That was to pay for the Napoleonic Wars. If we're still paying for that, then we've still got to pay for the Boer War before we can relinquish things associated with WW1
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It's dem sweaty socks Paul
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Quote: Sometimes I wonder what I'm a-gonna do
But there ain't no cure for the summertime blues
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I agree, Summer Time stopped being particularly useful long ago.
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I agree - but let's keep the Summer Time hours - it's nice getting home in the not-dark.
FWIW, I have no trouble slipping between the time changes. But, for people who are old before their time, such as yourself, I would be willing to make that concession.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Can we please stick summer time / daylight savings in the bin where it belongs and keep the same time all year, please? It always messes me up for a week switching in or out ...
Well said. This switching back and forth is ridiculous.
BUT... which should we stick with permanently? GMT or BST?
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OriginalGriff wrote: Can we please stick summer time
Yes please,
but the correct one is winter time, not summer time
That said... I don't care which one, as long as it stays and doesn't change anymore.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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Come and live in sunny Queensland, the rest of Oz has a DST event but Queenslanders decided it was too disruptive to the dairy industry and refused to implement it.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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It would confuse the farmers and fade the cows.
I would be in favour of having it all year round, especially in summer when we get day light at 4:30 in the blessed morning.
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If you don't teach your cows to read the clock dial, they won't know that they last week was milked at six o'clock, this week at five o'clock. They will think of it as the same time of the day, if you do not tell them that we have changed the clock reading.
Obviously, you will get the six o'clock news one hour later with winter time. But the cows don't care much about the six o'clock news.
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OriginalGriff wrote: It always messes me up for a week switching in or out ...
I've never understood why that hour, twice per year, has such an effect on people. I don't miss it, coming or going.
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Agreed. 
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Can we please stick summer time / daylight savings in the bin where it belongs and keep the same time all year, please? It always messes me up for a week switching in or out ...
Yep. Gets my vote. My body clock is not 'fooled' by moving some hands on a clock! 
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We could do like China ("which we call 'Red China'") and abandon time zones. Even a small country like Norway spans two full time zones: If sunrise is at 06:00 at the very east, it is at 08:00 in the west. Should we insist on the working day starting at 08:00 both places, just because it "has to" be at the same time, by the clock?
The US has always accepted that the working day starts at different times across the country, but label that time in a complex manner, like 08:00 plus a time zone indicator. The Chinese solution is rater to have a single time scale, so that some start their working day at 07:00, some at 08:00, some at 09:00, depending on where they are located. That is far easier to handle!
I wish all of Europe would go for a single European time zone, so that time indications would be unambiguous. The natural choice is UTC (a.k.a. GMT). USA could of course do the same, whether selecting UTC or one of their established time zones. (UTC is probably a better choice, as the risk of confusing UTC times with the old local times is almost zero.) And at the same time we could get rid of this a.m./p.m confusion, giving all "new times" in 24h format!
All of Europe has proven the ability to adjust the clock twice a year. So we should be capable of adjusting it for the very last time, to UTC, even if that may be a larger adjustment.
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If you join the EU again such troubles will be gone!
This might well be a repost but on a phone I will not scroll through all them posts.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Civilization ON ANDROID!?
Absolutely barbaric![^] 
The only Civilization games I've played are III and IV: Colonization.
Loved III, but haven't played IV: Colonization a lot.
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To be honest, I didn't even try the Android version, just the Windows version.
I like the no-frills look, all the bells and whistles of the modern Civilization versions are just not my cup of tea 
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... it looks like it's time to update the old classics.[^] 
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Wrong style.
Plague doctor - Wikipedia
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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What I find interesting (aside from the aromatic herbs nonsense) is that some of them wore primitive hazmat suits:
Quote: Some plague doctors wore a special costume. The garments were invented by Charles de L'Orme in 1630 and were first used in Naples, but later spread to be used throughout Europe.[12] The protective suit consisted of a light, waxed fabric overcoat, a mask with glass eye openings and a beak shaped nose, typically stuffed with herbs, straw, and spices. Plague doctors would also commonly carry a cane to examine and direct patients without the need to make direct contact with them.[13]
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Hmmm. I can see that becoming quite popular.
"The Last Respirator"
"The Quarantine Chapel"
"Whistler's ICU Nurse"
&etc.
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"The Gasping Cavalier"
"The Infection of Adam"
"The Birth of Virus"
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