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Zmau Z wrote: The general idea is to have my own mail address, so I can replace my provider. While we are at it, maybe I will have email addresses for the whole family...
I have a cheap one; but does provide free email aliasses; so gets sent to their emails. Still, I'd prefer them to use ProtonMail.
Zmau Z wrote: How much money does it cost ?
A few euro's a year; not noticable.
Zmau Z wrote: Can I have my domain for good ? Or do I have to pay for it on a yearly basis ?
My costs are yearly, but as I said, cheap (depending on your top level domain).
Haven't currently hooked up the domain to my Linus' server; Mono/ASP doesn't work yet with Apache, the keyboard is whining, and want a decent silly homepage that at least shows the hamsterdance. But remote desktop, with your own domain; impressive to most noobs.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I used to have a domain name, I dropped it because I don't "create content" enough to make it worthwhile.
I'd rather be phishing!
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I was doing some Microsoft dev work for side project and they wanted to have an email address that is not personal but an organisation one. I bought a domain for cheap ( $18 / year ) on google domain and setup an email redirect. Google lets you create an alias of a sort that says your email id is user@yourdomain.com that then gets redirected to your personal one. It was a good option for me as I needed something cheap and can go around Microsoft's restriction on having organisation domain.
Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf *
Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
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Another thing to consider is check whether the provider will serve your webpages over https.
Some providers will charge extra, so I just route my traffic through Cloudflare ssl for free to ensure that all pages are served over https.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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There are plenty of the newer gTLDs (generic Top Level Domain names Generic top-level domain - Wikipedia[^] ) available as the final suffix to your personal domain part (.xxx anyone).
However, be aware that many organisations are not yet fully supporting them, so you can get into a trap where you cannot use your preferred email address with that organisation.
e.g. my ISP will use my personal email domain to send marketing emails, but refuses to send billing and support emails to the same email address, so ultimately I have a series of fall back email addresses (I'm in the fortunate position to have a free alumni address, as well as the ISP's own provided email)
So if you go with a newer gTLD domain, it will mostly work, but at some point, someone won't be able to cope with something so new as your preferred email address.
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What you may want to consider is a domain that included email forwards.
If you have that then you can create emails for family, friends, etc. and forward it to their current email box. The old email address continue to work but the new ones are all in that set you'd like to make. If someone changes their mailbox then you change where it forwards to and all goes on transparently to everyone else. I use this procedure for a fraternal organization's website I manage which has changed officers each year. Each subgroups secretary has an address of the same form and if a new secretary is elected they are the new target of the forward. Similarly, when my kids were in college I used this, and later, in grad school, I changed the target but they all kept the simple 'family' address as well.
I used to use GoDaddy.com but they'll get you in cheap and then more than make up for it with their cost of renewals. I moved everything to NameCheap. NameCheap will even let you use their email forwarding if someone else is your ISP but that takes a bit of technical skill. Since their domain registration is amongst the cheapest, it's a good place to start.
Just a sample (look at other providers !!!) is namecheap's rates for registering a new domain:
Namecheap[^] which is good through the end of September. They always have sales, both for registration and sometimes for renewals. Websites, all sorts of stuff. For me, they were attractive for the very low cost no-frills options and fair renewal costs. It depends upon what you need (I also needed a website, called "hosting").
If you do this, you may want to look into the availability of a "catchall" forward, as well - a place you can send things that are going to your domain but to unassigned forwards - this means you can make up email addresses on the spot and they'll work - like one for each different place you do business with so you know who sent the email and who sold your name to spammers.
Beware of places that start you up cheap and then kill you for renewals. GoDaddy is famous for this. They never give you a break for their costly renewals.
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Since your primary purpose is for email for yourself and family, the number of mailboxes is important. And, how they handle alias addresses.
Besides that, since you have a domain, you’ll eventually want to put some kind of website on it, whether for testing, family/friends, or some level of business (to promote your career or other). So consider their hosting plan and technology. And, importantly, investigate their policy on SSL/TLS certificates. Some vendors require you to buy their certs, or make it difficult to install your own.
Good luck!
Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events.
- Manly P. Hall
Mark
Just another cog in the wheel
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I have {mylastname}.org, have had it for a couple decades.
Costs:
Domain Name Registation: I renew for multipole years at a time. The .org registration has gone up in recent years. Your cost will vary depending upon the top level domain. Easiest, but not the cheapest, is godaddy for maintain the name registration.
DNS: I use a free DNS provider (freedns.afraid.org). As it states... free! I used to handle DNS on my own servers back when I own a small hosting business, but freedns.afrain.org is a piece of cake to work with.
I write (C++) and run my own mail server on a Windows Server machine located at my employer's colocation (they've allowed this no charged for over a decade now). Again... Free.
Only potential pitfall is ensuring that DNS I occasionally touch the DNS so that it does not get cancelled due to lack of administrative use. Hasn't happened in all of my time at freedns.afraid.org.
So, aside from domain name registration, which I usually renew in 5 year chunks, no real monthly or annual costs.
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The domain name will itself cost you a yearly fee. An option when you get a domain name is to make it private by going through another organization that takes your place in the WHO lookup. That will cost an additional fee. More expensive, but still not that much, is the server itself, which may be Linux or Windows, shared or dedicated, and usually includes email for as many as you like. I have my own domain address and shared server with a dedicated IP address for about $200 per year.
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I read recently that some domain providers "rent" the domain name to you, but they own it. They do that to keep you on their site and can increase costs from year to year and not allowing you to move to other domain providers. Read the contract carefully.
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx
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Lots of places to get a domain from. While not a fan of Alphabet, I use Google Domains. $12/year with free anonymity.
I've been using Namecheap's email service for a while. I pay by the year and watch for sales. Last sales I was able to add an extra year twice for cheap (would only allow one year per transaction but suspect they may not have thought to prevent repeat orders).
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One downside is that you'll get spam. Lots of it, much of it very unpleasant. None of it is personal, so don't take it to heart.
When choosing a domain, think long-term. If it *might* be used for business some time, don't choose a "silly" domain name. Don't choose anything too long (I made that mistake; sometimes my email address doesn't fit in forms - even online ones. My excuse is that I chose my domain in the 1990s when people didn't use email much anyway.
If you do choose a hosting provider in order to put up a website, ideally check that they support unlimited subdomains. Then you can have sites like mywork.mydomain.com, myhobby.mydomain.com, myfamily.mydomain.com I find this invaluable, especially as a freelance developer. Each client gets their own subdomain, entirely independent of everything else, for testing and user acceptance e.g. client1.mydomain.com, client2.mydomain.com etc (the names are a little less predictable than that). I've also got a whole raft of independent subdomains for various hobbies and special interest sites. (No, not that sort of special interest).
As others have said, make sure that SSL is included - many cheap hosting providers integrate support for LetsEncrypt, a free SSL certificate issuer.
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Should Excel column "E" never be trusted as it's the Fifth Column?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I'd trust the fifth column over all others.
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There are enough cells around to hold anything that could be in that fifth column. Perhaps SUM careful calculations will help - LOTUS consider the options.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: LOTUS consider the options
Great Gu NOOOOO! Even the barest hint of mentioning Notes causes a rush of nausea...
Software Zen: delete this;
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I'd keep my eye on columns D and F also. They are in close proximity and could become subversive also.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Indeed: never trust the 456!
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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OriginalGriff wrote: never be trusted as it's the Fifth Column?
Always trust the Fifth Element. Big bada boom!
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Only in Madrid... 
Fifth column - Wikipedia
(For that matter, the first four columns aren't that great, either.)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Take one from column A and one from Column B. Call it a meal.
Includes eggroll or soup, rice, tea. and call it a meal.
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Thursday? This should have been a Tuesday.
The fifth element I'd trust. Just not on Tuesdays.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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It's row 7 you have to watch out for, because
7 8 9
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family suitable video
@originalgriff : your cat may enjoy
Quote: Passage, a short animation by the French filmmaker Simon Feat, limns twilight’s sensations with a delicate simplicity that renders the quotidian exquisite. The rhythms of terrestrial life – a boat cruising back to port, a cat settling down in the last rays of the sun, shadows creeping across a village, a cicada emerging from its shell – intertwine, pleasantly meandering through the end of a beautiful, unexceptional day. And then, as the sun dips below the horizon and dusk gives way to night, the music shifts and we launch from this planet out into the great beyond.
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«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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Too flickery - giving me a headache so I didn't watch too far.
I'm sure it's great art and all that, but if it supposed to be relaxing, it doesn't work for me.
A pity. I could do with a relaxing video.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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