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When I bought my laptop and brought it home it was acting funny. The CPU was getting hot and the thing was stuttering. I thought it was a bad thermal coupling between my CPU and its cooling system.
B&H Photo has the worst return policy I have ever seen, and they only let you know how horrible it is after you purchase. Caveat emptor.
So I was stuck potentially repairing this thing on warranty. They wanted me to ship it halfway around the country.
This laptop is never getting shipped anywhere again. So I looked up Lenovo authorized repair places in my area. Found 3 60 miles from me, each in the same city (Redmond, WA). I'd drive it.
In the meantime, I was tinkering. Finally, I did a factory wipe right as I was just about to abandon hope.
All of my problems since unboxing cleared up. I then undervolted the processor by 110mV and 100mV across the caches for good measure.
The lappy now runs benchmarks like Cinebench and TBench without redlining my CPU package, and it performs better than my newish desktop CPU (i9-13900HX vs i5-13600K) - they perform within spitting distance of each other, but I've got them both undervolted to run them a bit cooler (my desktop's 3rd p-core runs a little hot) and as a consequence they also run faster than stock.
Man this thing screams now. If you don't mind the hassle of getting it set up and you want a portable desktop these Lenovo Legion 7i Pros are monster machines.
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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But ... can it run Doom? 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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I have a 13600K on my desktop and to avoid thermal throttling, which plagued my 2016 i5-6600 air cooled system, I went with a 280mm AIO for the CPU and 3 140mm fans for the mobo, RAM and GPU.
I still have to benchmark it but with the heaviest load I could saddle it with (Metro Exodus Ultra quality @1080) it never got over 53 °C, and that was before swapping the airflow fans on the radiator with proper static pressure ones. Now it's even quieter and never gets over 48°C.
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next
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You have plenty of headroom. I run undervolted to keep the temp on my 3rd core down. I hit high 90s running prime95 smallFFT tests at 100% utilization, but I'm on air. These chips are spec'd to handle 100C (or even slightly more as long as it is short spikes)
See what you get at 180W sustained.
The reason I went with an i5 instead of an i9 was I didn't want to liquid cool this chassis.
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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honey the codewitch wrote: You have plenty of headroom
That is the name of the game for my build, bad choices in 2016 got me throttled, with little options to upgrade and a GPU that fried itself off due to an old style case. Adding all the fans my old case could support it became noisy so I went for 140mm and AIO to reduce noise as much as possible, and the i5 because for gaming it's virtually identical to an i7 but at half the price - I still coughed up north of 2000 euros for my build.
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next
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The 13th gen i7 of this tier is garbage. It's a 250W chip. So is the i9! Just get an i9!
I got the i5 you did because I wanted an air cooled system, and 180W was the max I was willing to go on air (a good call, considering 180W is what the i9 laptop CPU tops out at, and it's on air)
I think your cooling is a bit overkill, but heck, if it helps you sleep at night great. Your cooling is good for another 70 watts, so the i9 would be quite happy in your setup. The i5 doesn't need all that, but as you suggested, better to have it and not need it.
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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honey the codewitch wrote: I think your cooling is a bit overkill,
I went totally overboard...
honey the codewitch wrote: if it helps you sleep at night great.
...for this same exact reason . I was planning on getting something beefier if the price allowed it, and I can still change the CPU (which I know I won't but still).
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next
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I have to add, I cannot sing the praises of the i5-13600K enough. It is my favorite 13th gen chip.
Why? Performance per watt, and the fact that it's a sleeper chip. The i5 badge is a misnomer, since this thing handily benches in the i9 tier.
It reminds me of their old 6ghzable wolfdale core duo chips. The badge simply did not speak to the performance. The thing was a killer.
And so is this chip.
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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You are right about i5-13600K. Benchmarks confirm.
Because of high performance per watts (handles heat), it appears to be the choice when mated to high end graphics boards.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Makes you wonder just how much and what crapware was preloaded. After you reimaged did you download the Lenovo drivers?
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I didn't do that. I went through the recovery option to bring it back to factory. With all of the stuff it came with. It shouldn't have fixed it, but it did.
I intend to replace the system drive today and I'm kind of freaked out by the prospect tbh.
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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I replaced my very slow hard drive in my 6 year old laptop with an SSD.
It in now working just the way I want it. Its snappy and with my cooling platform the entire machine is kept cool.
By the way, how do you change the voltage that is being used? Isn't that part of the hardware?
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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Supporting hardware will allow you to adjust its voltage levels. You just need an "unlocked" CPU - one of the performance tier intel chips.
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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Thumbs up for your persistence!
I don't completely understand all the attempts you made to chase down the heat problems, but everything was solved by the 'factory wipe'?
I'm curious as to how many other people will be having the same problem -- or perhaps your custom specs for the laptop made yours unique?
Best wishes from Minnesota -- Craig
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Oh this laptop wasn't custom. I basically bought it straight off the shelf, as is.
I've been on their subreddit and discord server for this laptop. This line has a thriving community of enthusiasts so it's pretty easy to find information. That was nice.
The other thing that's cool about laptops that didn't occur to me, is you're all running the same hardware, so comparing benchmarks is really straightforward and can easily highlight performance and configuration issues.
Undervolting the CPU on these machines is really common, and cleaned up any remaining throttling the factory wipe didn't fix.
Other people didn't have to wipe their machine. Something just went haywire in mine for some reason. It's a mystery. Though other people have had problems since unboxing I'm not sure how they've solved them in many cases because they often don't report back once they've figured it out.
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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Can you point me to the (non-clickbait) resources or content on how to undervolt a laptop? My daughter's new laptop sounds like a jet engine even thought the task manager shows the cpu, disk, etc are idling.
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You'll only be able to do with one of Intel's performance CPUs like an i9-13900HX
You can use a program called Throttlestop 9.6. I believe it comes with an undervolting guide.
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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Basic amusement with District Attorney is crazy? (11)
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Fundamental
amusement -> fun
district attorney -> da
crazy -> mental
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
modified 29-May-23 4:17am.
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YAUT. Easy one for a Monday.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Nice clue though
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Just reading this
[First 10 million members Part One](https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/637403/Looking-back-at-the-first-10-million-members-Part)
and saw
<o:p> in several places - what does it mean ?
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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That tells me office namespace which is no help - they make the document look untidy ( 0k it's my OCD )
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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