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After less than a week on W11 I got so frustrated with the taskbar, that I actually paid for a software to resolve the issue...
It is not about the money ($5), but the realization that MS actually doesn't give a sh*t about end user...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
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I'm using ExplorerPatcher and 7 Taskbar Tweaker. I think MS is going to bring back the 'don't combine' feature soon.
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Jacquers wrote: soon
It is in the air for over two months... but no confirmation about the when...
I have no that much of patient...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
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I have been using ExplorerPatch it works so sticking with it for awhile. I think I paid money for it even.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Yep, I running ExplorerPatcher and Open Shell on my Win 11 VM. So far they seem to work fine together and give me all the start menu and taskbar features I like/use.
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mmm.. what is the problem with the task bar exactly?
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No text and always grouped...
So to select one of the N opened Visual Studio instances is PITA...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
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Isn't is also the case that when the mouse is hovered over the group icon in the Taskbar, it shows all the opened instances as thumbnails/tooltips, from which the desired one can be selected? Doesn't seem like a PITA.
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It is PITA... You have to wait for the popup, then identify the correct instance from the thumbernail... You also misding identifications lke 'Running' or 'Debug'... A big time PITA
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
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i am afraid i do not yet understand . how should it behave ? when i hover over VS icon in taskbar i see a small preview with the name of the project in surprisingly large letters at top allowing me to easily identify . btw this is on Windows 10 . is it different on your system ?
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BernardIE5317 wrote: is it different on your system
Yes; you lose the ability NOT to group items, and also lose the caption in Windows 11. This is the issue - it used to work well in Win10, then they broke it. One of several reasons I've opted NOT to "upgrade" to Win11.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: No text and always grouped...
I thought Windows 10 did that also?
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But you could change it to your liking...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
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Seriously?
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Well.. for the very first time I can put all my favorite application on the task bar... so forgive me if I fail to see your problem without any clues, Mr person I don't even know!
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I'm sorry, I don't understand. I'm looking at Windows 10 and I have all these applications on the task bar grouped the way I like them.
What am I missing?
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Functionality I always use that's was missing with the Win 11 default task bar:
1) Ability to add a toolbar (I always add a QuickLaunch toolbar)
2) Move the task bar to the left side of the screen
3) Set 'never combine' for active applications
I just kept using Win 10 until I came across ExplorerPatcher which gives me all the taskbar features I use. I also use Open Shell to give me a start menu I like.
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My set up for the most part looks like Win 95. I have two tools I have been using for years to keep it that way.
7+ Taskbar
Classic Shell
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I agree. I'm trying to set up my new laptop - windows 11 professional. Why MS would mess with something so fundamental as the task bar. This is like a car maker putting the steering wheel on the floor and the brake pedals on the dash.
It just makes no sense unless they are diabolically evil. Wait, I may have just hit on something...
For the record, what did you buy?
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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It called StartAllBack... Also using O&O ShutUp to block unwanted network traffic
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
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charlieg wrote: I agree. I'm trying to set up my new laptop - windows 11 professional. Why MS would mess with something so fundamental as the task bar. This is like a car maker putting the steering wheel on the floor and the brake pedals on the dash.
It just makes no sense unless they are diabolically evil. Wait, I may have just hit on something...
They're not evil, just ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) ing stupid.
Because the sub-team guilty of the last edition of Flush Money Down the Toilet Trying to Create a Two Screen Tablet That Will Inevitably Be Cancelled Before Release as a Stupid Idea created a new taskbar optimized for a ~5-8" screen. Desperate to salvage something from the cash bon-fire some MS PM (Massively Stupid Professional Moron) decided to upgrade Windows 11 by salvaging the new taskbar from the last FMDTTCTSTTWICBRSI debacle, because it was a reasonable fit for his use case (make it look more like dock on the mac he wished he could use instead) while ignoring all the howls of protest from cow-orkers who tried pointing out that not everyone used Windows that way.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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I tend to agree. This is similar to the time that they added the forced reboot option - there is a video of some PM announcing MS was going to make it a little more flexible. He indicated that they have received a lot of feedback and most of it not repeatable 
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: He indicated that they have received a lot of feedback and most of it not repeatable
Most of the feedback I assume was suggesting they either start or stop doing an act that would require the flexibility of a contortionist to pull off I imagine.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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