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That is even worse than the Londener who booked a cheap flight to Sydney Australia and ended up in Sydney Canada!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Portland Maine or Oregon? 
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Jerusalem, Israel or Jerusalem, New Zealand?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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  dziękuję to było śmieszny
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Wordle 679 6/6
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Line 4 was a mistake! I forgot to use a letter I knew should be there and reused one I knew was wrong!
I blame it on the 🍷🍷🍷! It's Friday night and Monday's a Bank Holiday!
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Wordle 679 4/6
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Wordle 679 4/6*
🟨🟨⬜⬜🟨
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Not an easy one!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Wordle 679 3/6
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Wordle 679 2/6
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In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Wordle 679 4/6
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Wordle 679 3/6
🟨🟨⬛🟨🟨
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Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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"Hard mode" will prevent that 
Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
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Wordle 679 3/6*
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Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
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Wordle 679 4/6
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slow start but got there
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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When have the old ways of lying proved insufficient? 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Think of it... You can not question a computer (hardware or software), so you will need either the developer (and it may be a big problem, especially for open-source), or some 'expert'... Now when both sides bring their 'expert' into the play the court will be lost for decades... A perfect solution for lawyers to secure income for until the end of all lawsuits...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
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So, I know many of you know about my eye-rolling rants from these two companies and their BS code. Preface - I'm in the middle of upgrading MS Teams from the free one being retired to the free one that is now available. Yeah, I'm not making this up. We'll get to that in a moment.
So, HP printers. 10 years ago or pay the big bucks, you're okay. Small home office you're screwed, etc. Not going to beat a dead horse. In the past 3 months, I've given my HP laser away (daughter could not make it work - I told her to toss it in the trash), bought a brother laser that sit's in the corner and works, tossed in the trash an HP inkjet that it was that way or the wife was looking for a shotgun. Happy with the new non-HP inkjet.
So I'm trying to figure out if MS screwed the install for the new Teams (they desperately want me to pay $50/year so they are making it hard), and in add/remove programs I find HP program after program that got installed when I tried to use their printers. smtp this, ftp that. I'm still uninstalling.... there is a special place for these companies.
Which reminds me - let's get back to MS. And Teams, and all the warnings about how Teams will be discontinued - click here to elephant up your computer. So I did based on some apologist's recommendation for me to stop my $itching and just go to the new free teams:
- is the old teams removed? no idea.
- what about the paid corporate teams that my cusomter supplied? no idea.
- did the new install remove then update to the new Teams? no idea.
- etc.
I'll cypher this, and I've made a lot of $$ using MS products over the last 20 years, but stop being an apologist for this crap. If you kick a turd, you're probably going to smell something...
y'all have a nice weekend. Looks like dry weather in Atlanta, so I can finally cut the grass. Want to know how I boot my JD lawn tracter? I turn the #$%#^^ key. Now, what's funny is JD is trying the same MS $$llcrap with their farm equipment.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Googling seems to suggest you can buy a 4004 CPU chip still.
You can get a Altair clone. Power on and off switch right there in the front. Simple switches to run the rest of it.
Altair 8800 Clone[^]
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ah yes, the ms apologist.... you go do you.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: the ms apologist
Nope.
I do however recognize that complex features lead to complex problems.
The simple items I suggested are of course simple.
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lol - well here's a pint to you.
I fall not so far from the tree of "if it's not broken..." But here at CP, we're sort of technically cognizant and cranky. Thou shalt not elephant with me setup.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Read it again just to see what I was actually posting about and I certainly did not make it clear (not sure why I didn't make that clear.)
I was only responding to this fragment.
"using MS products over the last 20 years, but stop being an apologist for this crap"
I do understand that, although perhaps not that long ago, but certainly at least 10 years, they have not been adding any actual real value. But I also understand that there isn't much new they can add. Not sure how you can make Word better, in a real way. I don't like chat type software much anyways but once you actually get the communication part down adding anything after that is just fluff.
But I also recognize that the goal of Microsoft is to make money. Not to make lives better. So they need to keep adding that fluff.
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