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i had the privilege of working directly with him when i was on the 4 person skunk-works team that created the proof-of-concept that became Acrobat. He was an inspiration who made everyone ... working insane hours ... feel valued, respected.
from John, and Ivar Sunderland, and Martin Newell, Xerox PARC, Canon ... came desktop publishing and direct action via mouse UI's, vector fonts, and so much more.
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Β«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindledΒ» Plutarch
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You were very fortunate to know him Bill
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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I agree. Very fortunate. He was Genius. Many moons ago (late 1970's and early 1980's, if memory serves), I implemented Warnock's hidden line elimination algorithm in a program at Grad school. It was designed to process very large CAD images with extreme detail using dynamic overlays and adaptive image partitioning (3D quad trees with pseudo recursion, written in Fortran). It ran on a Data General Eclipse mini-computer (and later on VAX under VMS). There is an example of the hidden line output used by Richard Feynman in his book "What do you care what other people think?" Pg, 159.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: So yeah... just had to guess all the wrong ones first. Just to make sure.
Neh! You missed one 
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Emacs on a PC?, first used it on a UNIX box many moons ago, most recently on a Raspberry PI
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I used Emacs on Lisp Machines, PDP 11-782, and a VAX 10. The PDP and VAX versions were outstanding.
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Here's my story that you may find interesting.
First of all, I posted the following question on a StackExchange site and they immediately closed it.
Posted Question
I have a completed project (SaaS) that I want to release as Open Source.
However, I want to create a tiered payment system which would be something like the following:
1. Via my Site: Using the SaaS solution via my web site: $X per month/year
2. Personal use (running SaaS on their own server & using it theirself): Free
3. "Small" Professional Use Running SaaS on company server for employee use. $X per user per month -- Small would be defined as Annual Revenue figure less than $XXX,XXX
4. "Large" Professional Use: Running SaaS on company server for employee use. $X per user per month -- Large defined as Annual Revenue figure greater than $XXX,XXX
5. Royalty-Free: Using SaaS as a subscription-based service: One-time payment $XX,XXX
Modern License?
Is there a modern License which will allow me to:
Open source the code (so everyone can see it change it etc.)
Still charge for its use?
If there isn't a license like that, what are some reasons that there isn't?
Reasons?
Are there legal reasons that this just can't be done?
Or, is this not done because people will steal the open source and use it without paying?
How About A Nice Balance?
It seems like this would be a nice balance between:
1. allow source code to be fixed/inspected/etc. by users
2. allow a developer to live off the work that she has created?
Since I didn't get an answer I had to read a ton.
After Extensive Research
I discovered there is a thing called Source-Available software[^] which isn't OSS.
My Question For This Forum
Why isn't there a nice license like the one I describe above?
One where intellectual property (and all that work we do as devs) is protected.
But, where we can still make the source open?
I also read this long article about Open Source Dual Licensing[^] which means:
1. provide a GPL (General Public License) which is OSS but requires users to open up their software too.
2. PRovides a second license so the user can "buy their way out of having to open up their software".
But that's not really what I'm talking about either.
Here's What I'm Talking About
I'm talking about making my software completely open for examination, modification etc. but then if they use the software in a certain way then they have to pay.
That provides some help back to the original developer who created this useful thing when some MEGA-COMPANIES (Google, MS, Apple, IBM, giant companies) come along and use it.
What do you think? Why don't we have a license like that? (Or, do we, and I haven't heard of it?)
Richard M. Stallman & Original Open Source Hopes
My idea would seem to even fit in with the original hopes that Richard Stallman had when he created the idea of OSS (Open Source Software).
Here's the original thing that happened that sparked Stallman to create this idea:
In 1980, Stallman and some other hackers at the AI Lab were refused access to the source code for the software of a newly installed laser printer, the Xerox 9700. Stallman had modified the software for the Lab's previous laser printer (the XGP, Xerographic Printer), so it electronically messaged a user when the person's job was printed, and would message all logged-in users waiting for print jobs if the printer was jammed. Not being able to add these features to the new printer was a major inconvenience, as the printer was on a different floor from most of the users. This experience convinced Stallman of people's need to be able to freely modify the software they use
EDIT / Update
Here's something I found that is an interseting article: How to Charge for your Open Source | Mike Perham[^]
Basically helps explain dual licensing.
modified 20-Aug-23 19:22pm.
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I'm curious, what reason was given for closing the question?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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