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Except when you noms on some mints like this, they show up in a package like this. Now, even sans aspartame free.
Because... why not.
Jeremy Falcon
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...computers getting too expensive?
So, here I am, trying to stop myself from buying a new laptop since my current one is about 5 years old. Ain't gonna lie, I'm this close to it. But for a new higher end laptop and monitor (to last another 5 years) it's about $5.6K USD once you add in the extended warranties so the company you buy from doesn't tell you to p1ss off if something goes wrong.
That's like 6K... homes used to cost that much. Probably 1K of that is just the GPU. How on Earth do companies honestly expect non-techy folks to drop that kinda money?
Jeremy Falcon
modified 20-Aug-23 11:34am.
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What the heck are you getting for USD$6K?
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It's just a high end laptop with 2TB drive and 64GB memory and a 28" 144Hz monitor to go with it. $600 of that is just extended warranties / replacement (which is crazy). And I'm sure a third of the remainder is the GPU. Wouldn't surprise me.
I don't need the graphics card, but I do want the 64GB RAM. Seems like it's all or none though. Not too many years ago, this would've been a 3K purchase for the same thing.
Jeremy Falcon
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I am fortunate enough to be able to afford a high-end laptop/PC and would have no issue paying $6,000 USD for such.
Is it worth it? Hell no!
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Yeah... I mean... I won't go broke... but.. ya know... that's also the price of a car or one hell of a weekend with a call g*** (can't say and be kid sister friendly).
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: that's also the price of a car
Really? They sell cars that cheap? Very, very used I am guessing. Wow, I have shown my ignorance of such things. Ugh.
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Yeah, like a starter, teenager car. Then again, I might be showing my age.  Cuz you know, back in my day...
Jeremy Falcon
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Kids on your lawn Jeremy? 
Software Zen: delete this;
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None that I saw. None of them getting a car though if I do find one... I got computers to buy.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: that's also the price of a car or one hell of a weekend with a call g***
I'm guessing "goat."
Will Rogers never met me.
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You must be a graphics designer. That's the only reason I can think to have that much memory in a laptop. The price you're seeing is a result of the memory and SSD, nothing else.
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I do like me some multi-tasking and future proofing. When it comes to laptops especially, since most are non-upgradable with their parts, better to go large once every 5 years because the next few versions of OSes to release will always take more umph.
Jeremy Falcon
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In case you're not familiar with Framework Laptop, they allow you to easily open and change things. I thought their original 13.5" screen was too small. They now have a 16" version. Unfortunately for me, it doesn't ship where I live...
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That's cool. Thanks.
Jeremy Falcon
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In March of 2018 I purchased my next 5+ year desktop. I sprung for an AMD ThreadRipper 1900X. I like the idea of the extra cores to run virtual machines.
Two and a half years later it was obsoleted by Windows 11.
Still runs great with Windows 10 which I will run on it towards October of 2025 when mainstream support ends and try again. So I guess it will last me 5 years, it was just dissapointing to be shut out half way through.
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If you mean just not showing on the supported hardware lists, it'll likely work just fine all the same.
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I'm a software developer. Everything runs in Docker, plus I need at least 1 VM (at once) to connect to customers systems. That, plus Eclipse running, I can easily eat through 32Gb+, and on a 32Gb machine, that just causes swapping and terrible performance. Right now, with Chrome, Docker, VMWare and Eclipse running. I'm at 63% of 64Gb.
There's still no way I'd pay 6k.
I've got an HPZbook, 6 core/12 thread i7, 64Gb RAM (comes with 32Gb, added an extra 32Gb), 1Tb + 2Tb NVMe (added the 2Tb), and was (from memory) circa £1600. Only got an Nvidia Quadro, so about the same performance as a GTX1650. Happily plays Far Cry 6 on medium.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: computers getting too expensive?
yes.
So are 3 egg omelets.
pre pandemic: 3 egg omelets, home-fries, toast $8 US.
post pandemic: $15+
pre pandemic: groceries for my family and I approx. $250
post pandemic: $500+ (for the same damn things we have been buying for the last 10 years)
Everything on planet earth has doubled or tripled in price, maybe even more for some things.
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Slacker007 wrote: Everything on planet earth has doubled or tripled in price, maybe even more for some things.
Totally agree man. Seems everything has gone up but salaries and rates. Real talk man, it's time to think about raising mine... which means I'll need to find a new contract, etc.
Yay governments robbing us with a hidden tax called inflation while they line their pockets and lie to us while we're dumb enough to believe anything the TV tells us.
Jeremy Falcon
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Slacker007 wrote: Everything on planet earth has doubled or tripled in price, maybe even more for some things.
It's called inflation. Without that, governments cannot pay their debts.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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My wife wants a new laptop -- she said her current one cost about $600 USD, and that she expects to pay around that.
I told her I would expect to pay about $2000 USD if I ever buy one for myself (I have no plans to buy myself a laptop).
I might build myself new desktop (mini-tower) PC soon, and probably $2000 USD would be about right, but I have no idea now that Fry's Electronics is gone (  ) -- I suppose NewEgg may be in my future.
Edit: My needs are simple, I'm a developer, I don't game, I don't watch video on a PC, I can make do with the on-board graphics just fine.
modified 20-Aug-23 11:51am.
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I'm considering upgrading my GPU (From an ancient GTX660Ti to a RTX 4060), and NewEgg want £10 more than Amazon for the same card, from the same manufacturer ... shipping is free on both as well.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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