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I just saw on one of my state's official websites:
Computer Programmers -- Convert project specifications and statements of problems and procedures to detailed logical flow charts for coding into computer language.
(Emphasis mine.)
Glad I'm a Software Developer rather than one of those.
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Yeah, but just think if they did still teach that. How to think and approach a problem is more useful than "use this or that framework". I used to have a template for drawing the things.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
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I agree. I'm glad that when I took my first programming class (BASIC in 1983) we had to submit flow charts.
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From the point of view of an amateur, flow charts are a good thing. They emphasize the logic of how to solve the problem. OOPS emphasizes the bureaucratic details of instantiating objects, constructor functions, templates and dependencies. 60's music was better, too.
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Andy Allinger wrote: 60's music was better
Continues to be better. Anything up to about 1990.
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Good music continues to be made. You might have to look for it. Look through KEXP's playlists - you will likely find something you like: https://www.youtube.com/@kexp
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Go with the flow man. 
As the aircraft designer said, "Simplicate and add lightness".
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I make flow charts for the code I write for the OpenComputers Minecraft mod. Makes it easier to implement.
I also make flow charts for all the various processing stuff I have to set up to figure out what I need and how to lay it out.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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I smell money
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Amusing, but as others already mentioned it can useful for learning purposes.
This looks interesting:
Flowgorithm is a free beginner's programming language that is based on simple graphical flowcharts.
Flowgorithm - Flowchart Programming Language[^]
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: state's official websites:
Did you consider that they might be using COBOL.
And not Object COBOL but actual COBOL.
Quite a few years ago I had to extensively modify an older C application and realized I could no longer even think in structured programming. I had to use a model that allowed me to simulate OO via C. A junior programmer thought that was cool and I didn't explain it was just a hack so I could implement it.
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Cats "love" laser pointers. My cat knows where the light comes from; he gets all excited when he sees me pick up the pointer; yet he still chases the light.
I can run the pointer "under a door", and he'll sit in front of the door ... waiting. If he then sees the pointer in my hand, he'll give me a stink eye.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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As a signature block I once saw read:
I've known many Zen masters in my life; most of them were cats.
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Does he close his eyes slightly to give you the stink eye?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Does the same with the mouse cursor. Not enough action: will gnaw on your hand. Can't do it while I'm standing up. But will swipe me if I try to pass. Recess is recess.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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God has a sense of humor, yesterday I teased Southmountain about new glasses. Went to the eye doctor for my yearly checkup, I knew something was up because I ditched my single focus computer lenses 3 or 4 months ago.
The cataracts in both eyes have grown so much over the past year I now have a surgery consult in February.
The optometrist said, "Yeah, your prescription changed so much that we're not even going to do glasses until the cataracts are taken care of."
Any advice? I know around here I'm kind of a whippersnapper at 57 (58 in March).
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
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MarkTJohnson wrote: Any advice?
Yes: 1. follow your doctor's advice; 2. don't ask for medical advice form a programming community; 3. don't follow the medical advice of a programming community... hmm, that would include my own previous advice... running into the liar paradox[^] here 
Mircea
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Ok then, has anyone else had the experience and what might I expect?
(There's always one in the crowd, most of the time it's me.)
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
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MarkTJohnson wrote: Ok then, has anyone else had the experience and what might I expect?
Not for cataracts, but I have one coming up for my sinuses. Not trying to compare the two at all, but even for something like with sinuses it can be worrying. Probably even more so for you.
Wish I could say something more helpful. Wishing you the best with it being a smooth operation and a quick recovery.
Jeremy Falcon
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I had mine done December 2020.
I kept thinking that my glasses were just a bit dirty so I was always cleaning them until I started to struggle with driving at night which was especially bad on a dark road at night due to the headlights of the oncoming cars.
I went to the optician and they organised an appointment at the local hospital where they confirmed they were getting pretty bad, so a few weeks later I went under the knife to get them done.
Obviously they use anaesthetic so you don't feel anything, the only thing that was a little bit uncomfortable was the light used by the surgeon to see what he was doing especially as they use some kind of tool to keep your eyelids wide open so you can't blink so for about 10 minutes on each eye staring into a bright light.
When the op was finished they taped some plastic shields over both eyes to protect them while the incisions healed (a couple of days) and I had to add special eye drops several times a day for a about a month.
That having been said I was really amazed at how much brighter colours were and also how much sharper things were in focus.
The only thing I very occasionally notice is you can see the edge of the lens, a bit like seeing the frames of the lenses when wearing glasses, and to be honest you don't really notice them.
I am really glad they were done especially as they added lenses that were close to my glasses prescription (required for reading and computers), I still have a my last pair of glasses which I occasionally use when using the mobile phone because the writing can be a bit on the small size.
I certainly have no regrets about having them done.
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My mom had Cataract surgery a couple years ago. They do one eye at a time a week or two apart to allow healing. About two years after the initial surgery, a membrane behind the lens will fog up, though that only need a non-invasive laser 'surgery'.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Not yet, probably in the next decade.
My parents had them done and all went well.
It also fixed some eye vision.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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I have a 20 year head start on you (79 in June), but my cataracts seem to have stabilised at "almost insignificant". My brother had his done a few years ago at about the age I am now, and had no problems following it. And my son, a few years ago at just over 50; apart from a few days of blurry vision he reports no ill effects.
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MarkTJohnson wrote: at 57 (58 in March)
A friend underwent this surgery at 50. And they placed interocular lenses in his eyes during the procedure.
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