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I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Roger Wright5-Mar-23 19:40

5-Mar-23 19:40

I just spent a delightful (and obscenely expensive) weekend in Las Vegas, attending the Xfinity and Cup Series NASCAR races. Wow! What a great time!

But what a noise! I just got home to Bullhead City, and I'm nearly deaf, even though I wore earmuffs for most of the time. Earmuffs work great, but at those sound levels, it's impossible to talk to your buddy sitting in the next seat. And I like to eavesdrop on the drivers as they talk to their crews, but it's impossible to understand what the scanner is picking up during the race. Yes, it's possible to hear during a Caution, but not under full throttle.

The product I'm looking for is an earmuff/headset that has a Noise Reduction Ratio of 124 dB or better, and speakers that can connect to a Bearcat 125AT handheld scanner. For the bonus round, I'd love to have BlueTooth capability and noise-cancelling microphones built in to allow voice communications between two people attending the race together.

If there's a product out there that can do this, I'd love to hear about it. If someone here would like to tackle the project - I'm looking at you, Honey the Code Witch, but anyone is invited to join in - I'm in for two units, and available for Beta testing. If it turns out to be useful and reliable, I think I can safely guarantee many thousands of sales, and I wont charge you a thing for the idea. But I do expect to get mine free, no matter how many millions you rake in. And that's for the life of the product, all upgrades included. Heck, my idea is making you a millionaire - that's the least I deserve.

So go and put on your thinking caps, consume your creative herbal products. I think this is a product idea that can extend well beyond NASCAR, and has the potential to generate some serious profits. I look forward to buying stock in your company, after you make this idea a reality.

Will Rogers never met me.

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Joan M5-Mar-23 21:06

Joan M

5-Mar-23 21:06

WOW! 124dB is a lot...

For all the other specs check "3M peltor" devices, they offer different solutions from industrial to militar.

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Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Roger Wright6-Mar-23 4:44

Roger Wright

6-Mar-23 4:44

Oops. Fat fingers. I meant to type 24 dB, which most ear muffs currently provide.

Will Rogers never met me.

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Rick York5-Mar-23 22:00

Rick York

5-Mar-23 22:00

Motorcycle riders use little intercom units. Maybe you could use one of those. Here are a few : Motorcycle Intercoms - MOTORCYCLEiD.com[^]

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Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Roger Wright6-Mar-23 4:45

Roger Wright

6-Mar-23 4:45

Great idea! I'll look into those.

Will Rogers never met me.

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Slow Eddie6-Mar-23 3:03

Slow Eddie

6-Mar-23 3:03

Well, you are certainly not referencing me! Laugh | :laugh:

Rock bands (the Who) play almost that loud, if not louder. They wear custom fit earplugs, earphones. Try your local music store or music stores on line.
I am sure they are quite expensive.

Don't go to any more NASCAR events.

btw: In the Navy, on an Aircraft Carrier, shop immediately under the #1 catapult and playing in a rock band did it for me. All my highs are gone and 20% of everything else.

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Roger Wright6-Mar-23 4:52

Roger Wright

6-Mar-23 4:52

I hear you, or rather, I used to could. For me, firearms did most of the hearing damage. Growing up, no one used hearing protection. Heck, I can't even remember seeing PPE in sporting goods stores at all! I'm not sure how loud my .30-06 BAR is, but when I go to the range, I get to keep it all to myself. Big Grin | :-D

It's amazing what a difference seating makes, though. Last year we were 24 rows higher up, and could carry on a conversation, albeit a loud one. This year, sitting closer to the track, it was impossible to shout loud enough to be heard except under a caution. I can barely talk this morning...

By the way, being there is a unique (and costly) experience, and worth doing a couple times a year, but you get a better view on TV.

Will Rogers never met me.

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

theoldfool6-Mar-23 7:40

theoldfool

6-Mar-23 7:40

btw: In the Navy, on an Aircraft Carrier

If you haven't already done so, you may be able to get hearing aids through the VA.

>64
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Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

jschell6-Mar-23 6:58

jschell

6-Mar-23 6:58

Roger Wright wrote:
The product and I'm nearly deaf ... of 124 dB or better

"Loud noise above 120 dB can cause immediate harm to your ears."

What Noises Cause Hearing Loss? | NCEH | CDC[^]

Sounds (pun admitted but sort of unintentional) like what you really need is a lawyer. Especially if there was no notification of that. And probably a release form.

Roger Wright wrote:
The product I'm looking for is an earmuff/headset

Googling the following would seem to suggest that protection already exists.

ear protection for shooting

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Roger Wright6-Mar-23 8:34

Roger Wright

6-Mar-23 8:34

I have used several products for protection from shooting noise; the damage was done before such things were ever popular. The best of them work very well, blocking sharp reports from a gunshot. None work very well in a continuous field of roaring engines. I can get a set of muffs that will plug into my scanner, which I plan to do, but the technical breakthrough I'm looking for adds the ability to communicate between two people while filtering out the ambient noise. I'm thinking something in the way of a Bluetooth walkie talkie with an amazing front end filter and wide dynamic range. In retrospect, I should have recorded the day and run the audio through a spectrum analyzer to determine a stop band profile. Oh well, I'll be doing it again come October; this time I'll record more of it.

Will Rogers never met me.

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

englebart6-Mar-23 14:28

englebart

6-Mar-23 14:28

My pilot friends have pretty good headsets with microphones.

Small planes are noisy, you sitting behind a V8 with no mufflers.

The versions I have used are hardwired(minus) and plug into the radio(plus)

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Roger Wright7-Mar-23 5:53

Roger Wright

7-Mar-23 5:53

That's kind of what I'm looking for. What I really want is a headset with bluetooth connectivity, but adding a jack to connect to an external audio source.

Will Rogers never met me.

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

englebart9-Mar-23 3:39

englebart

9-Mar-23 3:39

If you are okay with a jack for the radio feed, then go wired all the way!

The big issue with the wired is what happens when you have to use the restroom!?
I see why you want wireless.

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Roger Wright9-Mar-23 4:13

Roger Wright

9-Mar-23 4:13

Exactly! Though, with beer going for $15 a can, there are fewer trips to the bathrooms than one might expect.

Will Rogers never met me.

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Kenneth Haugland6-Mar-23 19:24

Kenneth Haugland

6-Mar-23 19:24

There are actively damped air muffs that can boast of a damping of approximately 40 dBA, which is extremely good. The thing with actively damped earmuffs is that they already have a microphone attached, so communication is included almost by default. It is mainly used by the army, special forces, etc, and one such provider I know of is called Quietpro.

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Roger Wright7-Mar-23 5:54

Roger Wright

7-Mar-23 5:54

Thanks! I'll look into that. No reason to re-invent the wheel, unless I can save a ton of money doing so.

Will Rogers never met me.

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

CodeZombie627-Mar-23 0:40

CodeZombie62

7-Mar-23 0:40

Have you tried asking this in a NASCAR (or any other racing fan group) forum? I would imagine that other racing fans have run into this.

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Roger Wright7-Mar-23 5:55

Roger Wright

7-Mar-23 5:55

Oh, the product exists, but they want upwards of $500 each. I can design and build this from scratch for less than that.

Will Rogers never met me.

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Member 99836927-Mar-23 3:45

Member 9983692

7-Mar-23 3:45

https://www.amazon.com/3M-Pro-Comms-Electronic-Technology-Microphones/dp/B08WJLZVHB[^]

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Roger Wright7-Mar-23 5:58

Roger Wright

7-Mar-23 5:58

I saw those, and I like them. But I need to be able to connect to an external audio source so we can monitor the scanner radio. Good find, though!

Will Rogers never met me.

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Techsys Admin7-Mar-23 3:45

Techsys Admin

7-Mar-23 3:45

There is no product that will reduce noise by 124dB. The best you could hope for (in a single, economical product) is 30-40dB. People who work every day around excessive noise sometimes use ~33dB foam ear plugs in conjunction with ~35dB over-the-ear protective headsets.

That said, solutions for NASCAR fans who need an intercom to communicate with each other and listen to scanner traffic are already commercially available. I have used similar equipment systems at Daytona, Talladega and Ft. Worth. Take a look at https://www.racingradios.com/collections/fans/products/racing-radios-fan-intercom-starter-package[^].

I do not work with or have any affiliation with Racing Radios.

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

Roger Wright7-Mar-23 5:52

Roger Wright

7-Mar-23 5:52

I know - that was a typo. I'll settle for anything above 24 dB. But I think I may have found a solution, though it's a bit kludgy. There's a $75 headset on Amazon that has a 3.5mm jack to connect to an audio source - the scanner, in this case - and a 5-pin DIN cable to connect to a radio. I can adapt that to connect to a bluetooth transceiver that I can wear on my belt. I think that will solve the issue at a reasonable cost!

Will Rogers never met me.

Re: I'm Looking For A Product That Only A Genius Can Find, And This Is The Only Place I Find Geniuses

StatementTerminator7-Mar-23 8:35

StatementTerminator

7-Mar-23 8:35

For a cheap(ish) and simple solution, have you considered just wearing Bluetooth noise cancelling earbuds with a pair of muffs on over that?

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jmaida5-Mar-23 17:48

jmaida

5-Mar-23 17:48