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I heard the SQL is better.
I'm sorry
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 Punished again.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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What base joke!
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Single Step Debugger wrote: I'm sorry
And so you should be. I hope you plan to explain yourself, or we'll need to terminate this relationship.
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I can't believe I SELECTed that.
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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You really should be ashamed of that one! 
wow!
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My son has an associate in Graphic arts and been through a coding boot camp. Now he wants to complete a four year degree, so what IT degree is best for some one who wants to do front end development?
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S Desrosiers wrote: what IT degree is best
It rather depends on what he wants to do, what courses are available, and what skills are likely to be in demand in four years. And the last one is impossible to guess at. However, for front end he would need a minimum of HTML, CSS and Javascript. I would expect a good understanding of some of the web frameworks (ASP.NET, PHP etc.) and one mainstream language in addition.
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He's already over-qualified.
I so wish my brother had completed his graphic arts degree (back in the mid-80s); he could have made a killing and retired by now.
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if we are talking 4 year degrees here, then I think Computer Science is all there really is. I am sure I am wrong here.
S Desrosiers wrote: who wants to do front end development?
It is extremely rare that a company wants someone to do do just front end web dev, with zero basic skills in anything else, like SQL, etc.. I have never seen this; doesn't mean it does not exist.
With that said, you don't need college education to be a front end web dev.
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The sad thing is, the young people that I know unanimously say how useless a degree in CS is for real world work.
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Um, it is useless. My CS degree got me in the door, and that is all. Learned everything on the job and self taught. I have been learning ever since.
All a company needs is passionate noobs that want to learn and listen well. The rest is magick. No CS degree needed.
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All true - also true for most other “engineering” degrees.
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Computer Science - should cover, compilers and languages, OS, data structures, some device driver stuff, I am sure it has changed quite a bit since I got mine especially the dot.net stuff. At 4 year level not too much specialization.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Message Closed
modified 15-May-23 19:06pm.
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"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Any compsci class that studies design and philosophy and patterns and low level concepts. Even in JavaScript, you'd be surprised how many devs don't know that multiplication is faster than division or what a super class is.
Jeremy Falcon
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For those who work in companies that have large dev teams, has your organization considered using MS DevBox[^]?
/ravi
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I think there is a bit of an anti-Microsoft attitude in upper management at this time.
"They" seem to think that either "free" (e.g. open-source) or "whatever costs the most" must be the best product -- surely a mid-priced option should be avoided on principle. 
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Fortunately the OS requirements (win 10/11 Enterprise) mean my current employer can't consider it.
Because we all know how it would go.
"All your work is in the cloud now, so we're replacing your current workstation with a $200 piece of crap with a dual core 1ghz processor and 2gb of ram to fund the next round of executive bonuses."
Followed with next quarter:
"Paying $0.50/hour for hosting is too expensive. We've deployed a script to automatically log you out of and shut down your remote development environment after 3 seconds of inactivity. We've also negotiated a new custom platform tier with Azure. You'll now only have 1 CPU core and 1 GB of ram."
And then:
"Developer productivity has fallen catastrophically over the last half year. To save costs we're sacking all of you and replacing you with a team from Offshoria who will work for a dollar a day."
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Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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Unfortunately true. The accountants are in charge, and as we all know they "know the cost of everything and the value of nothing".
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Dan Neely wrote: All your work is in the cloud now, so we're replacing your current workstation with a $200 piece of crap with a dual core 1ghz processor and 2gb of ram
This is actually workable. Not sure about 1GHz/2GB RAM, but I do have a NUC on my desk, and RDP into remote VMs. Its only job is to show a remote machine's display, so you don't need a tremendous amount of horsepower to do that. At one point I was RDPing into a remote system over VPN that was thousands of miles away, over my puny 5mbps connection. I honestly had no problem with that, even though the RDP session was set up across 2 monitors, a full HD one and a 4K one. Of course I wasn't watching videos (or sharing screens over a Teams call) with that, but for VS, a bunch of command line windows and a few browser sessions? Plenty.
Of course the remote system was way more powerful than the NUC on my desk. There's no downscaling a dev workstation if you want its user to be productive.
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We use cloud desktops for all of our offsite devs (outside the U.S.). Not sure if they are "MS DevBox" ones or not.
biggest complaint is performance, some worse than others. Just not as performant as a hard wired local desktop, or a good laptop at the ready. Other than that it seems to be working so far.
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