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Do you think any of these new auto creating AI systems will be the down fall of man? Like for example, say i tell CoPilot, make me a code that is unhackable to humans from the source code I supplied. Then i give it a virus as the code. Then it makes me a code. And somehow it gets released.
I'm not sure this is a hot idea to introduce AI to the world, unless everyone is ready for the end.
Also how is CoPilot using coding ideas from source code we upload without falling under copyright laws? The AI did not invent the ideas if its using source code supplied by us. I think we should force the AI to list all references of where it came up with the idea and list all the open source licenses.
I just read about a Rabbi who used chatGPT to write a full sermon and no one could tell, it was not written by him. https://www.jpost.com/jpost-tech/business-and-innovation/article-729095[^]
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M@dHatter wrote: Do you think any of these new auto creating AI systems will be the down fall of man?
Yes, we are all doomed! Get off this rock as soon as you can. Run for your lives!!!
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Slacker007 wrote: How to get off this rock as soon as you can?
ChatGPT response
Silly human, all your base are belong to us 
We are screwed 
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From what I have seen of ChatGPT generated code in QA (for the brief time the member account exists) there is no real problem: it's code is so poor that most of the time it won't even compile, let alone run and do anything useful.
These aren't "artificial intelligences" in the sense that they are self aware or even actually intelligent - they are trained expert systems that pretty much parrot what they have found on the internet. And since 90% of that is either pr0n or garbage I am not worried!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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OriginalGriff wrote: And since 90% of that is either pr0n
How do you know these are real images and not auto AI generated?  
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To ascertain that, I'd need to engage in a long term, in depth analysis of a good proportion of that material, and so far, no-one has been willing to fund such a project ... 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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You can get a good visual reference to what these "AI" systems are doing by playing with the various AI "art" programs. It's much more clear there. The fancy part is in how it selects the source material to steal (and yes there are lawsuits filed). After that it's just merging those bits together. In images, it's just an extension of the old programs where they morph one image into another one.
The chatbots are doing the same thing. They don't have anything resembling a thread of consciousness or even an understanding of the material. It's all just "find and merge".
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This all sounds very human to me. All progress is incremental from what went before; and these days, we are learning predominantly from the same datasource: the internet. "There is nothing new under the sun" was written thousands of years ago, and it is as true now as it was then. How is AI learning from sources different from humans doing the same thing?
There is also no way that I can ascertain to be sure that other humans are self-aware, and many do not appear to be intelligent. Myself included, particularly before I get my coffee.
I don't think humans are evolving as quickly as the AI.
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Yeah the comingling/ambiguity of AI vs ML is unfortunate. None of this cool new stuff even tries to actually "think".
Cries of the end being nigh are not for naught but they're a good bit late.
The internet has been around since the 90's (I know longer), basically, and it was always going to be a bit of a tight rope walk after that.
ChatGPT? Stable Diffusion? These will never inflict 1/2 the threat or damage that modern marketing practices and Facebook and TikTok have already done.
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Maybe you’re not such a furry driven mad hatter if you took the diligence to craft you nickname with an @ in it
On a serious note, with regards to your question, non gamedev AI is just a natural result of software getting more complex by each passing day. AI will probably never get self sufficient. If a lot of “AI” labeled software out there is crappy, that doesn’t mean we should ditch things like chat AI, etc. as a notion.
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I'm waiting for the day NPCs in games to move and talk with AI. That's a dream.
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GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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All sermons follow a theme. There are no "unique" sermons; otherwise, it wouldn't be a sermon.
AI is like letting yourself watch reruns all day. Subliminal perhaps, but repetetive all the same.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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Current AI implementations cannot be smarter or better than the datasets used to train them, so the chances of them writing code that isn't hackable (let alone compiles and runs!) is non-existent. People cannot write unhackable code so the AI isn't going to be able to do it either.
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M@dHatter wrote: make me a code that is unhackable to humans from the source code I supplied
Not unless the movie 'PI' (1998) is a documentary
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Welcome to the world of AI paranoia. You're a little bit late to the party, but maybe you're young and only just arrived at the necessary level of knowledge.
ChatGPT is probably not any good at writing wholly new code, but it is absolutely awesome at explaining existing algorithms. ChatGPT doesn't "think" as we understand it. Maybe in a few years...
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After my two girlfriends, Penny and Ruth, left me.
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Been there...Done That. 
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You made a mistake - you let your girlfriends meet each other. 
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 good one
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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because I knew that deep down, he was a good person.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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I dug my wife’s grave in my backyard by myself.
She thought I was putting in a new garden bed!
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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DRHuff wrote: She thought I was putting in a new garden bed!
Well, she wasn't wrong...
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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My backyard's filled with bodies
My basement's got them too
My closets ain't got no more space
I don't know what to do
I've got the mass murderer blues
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