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Oh ![Green Alien | [Alien]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/alien.gif) I hope so...
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There just something about **Value, my brain says 'Pointer to a pointer, what witchcraft is this!!!'
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Never had a problem yet with pip. 
I did say "yet", which probably means trouble the next time I use it.
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You've not had the:
Package A needs version < X of Package B
Package C needs version > X of package B
Package D needs Package A and Package C
/bangs head on desk
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: good luck with PIP
Peripheral Interchange Program? I haven't used that since my PDP-11 days.
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Using a programming language named after a snake (a constrictor, no less) is maybe a sign.
"the devil made me do it"
I do not use python for the reasons mentioned (invisible code, tab and space blindness, etc.)
I do use other's python code as pseudo code, of sorts, for C.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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To be perfectly honest I think the retail price of Python has more to do with it popularity than anything else.
Remember you get what you pay for. 
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Granted, the "price is right". Python is very handy for one-off kind of stuff. I am using it to debug/tune Chris's CP-AI used with Blue Iris, mostly BI settings. Watch for a change in the BI log, filter it with what I am looking for and send me an SMS. Handy to get a heads up so as to check out the event. Maybe trivial, but handy. Also use it from time to time as a syslog server when looking for people trying to access sites they don't belong on using the corp LAN. Cleanup after ransomware is no fun.
Now, this payroll program I an writing with Python is more of a struggle. 
An intellectual is someone who can listen to the William Tell Overture and not think of the Lone Ranger.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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Ok, so, I'm going to give you the single best use-case for bothering with Python.
Jupyter Notebooks.
It's a webserver-based environment to document, script, and generate results in a single document.
You can transform notebooks into slides, so you can teach a class.
You can effectively collab with people on notebooks, so you can do research across the globe.
You can generate and plot all manner of graphs, so you can use it to prove something.
There's markup and HTML support if you need it.
Anything else --> don't use Python
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Finished the tutorial I had to do, I can say it gets around some problems (& creates it own) but there never issues I have had I mean 'you can create a web server in two lines', a good 90% of the code I have written is embedded (except a few test rig software front ends), by embedded I mean small memory, limited output and tends to be mounted in a hole under ground or under water. So web is not an issue...
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As an added bonus... it's also slow.
Jeremy Falcon
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'But thats not an issue with modern PCs' try running it a PC104 that a few years old...
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It depends on the application. If everybody thought that way, even modern PCs would run slower than they need to... which they do. There's seldom a good reason to make an use a slow language unless A: there's no other option and B: it introduces some radically new concept. People are just lazy and would rather not learn how to do things the best way, so we get crap like this.
Jeremy Falcon
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Genius has one brain cell changed (10)
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I think PoH has rather given the game away
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Whistles innocently, I don't know what you mean.
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I think you should take it Pete
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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To put people out of their misery, the answer is brilliance.
One = I (Roman Numerals)
I Brain Cell changed = Anagram of I Brain Cell.
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And you are up tomorrow! 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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BRILLIANCE
Changed = Anagram of I (one) BRAIN CELL
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Is correct, but too late, unfortunately.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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