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one of my (now sporadic) attempts to get a C# language issue discussion going on the "C# Language Forum" has been replied to with this in-depth response from Harold Aptroot: Re: the new Math.Generics ? - C# Discussion Boards[^]. for me, Harold's posts have always been very valuable, prescient.
i feel like i just received a wonderful gift, and i want the "world" to know 
p.s. as i hoped i expressed in my query that Harold responded to, i am not complaining about what the C# language forum has, imho, evolved into over the years ...
it is very valuable, and i learn* a lot from the often fulsome and astute responses to what i call "QA for grown-ups" posts by such luminaries, as OriginalGriff, MacCutchan, and Deening, and others !
* learn: often ... given my distance (by choice) from what C# and .NET have become in terms of web-centric, server-side, etc., over the last years: "become aware of" is a better choice than "learn."
best wishes from a past-his-use-by date happy camper
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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I buy gaming starter PCs for work machines because I can get good build quality, and a fast CPU/RAM/storage combo sans GPU for a good price because there's a lot of competition out there. The market for gaming starter machines is good for buyers. Although in my current instance I built from scratch so I could match parts for maximum performance and the features I wanted, but I still used things like a gaming motherboard for example - because it supports overclocked RAM. I run my RAM significantly faster than stock DDR5.
I have an all glass case, which means everything is visible. It looks super classy, but not with lights everywhere.
OH THE LIGHTS. I just paid a pretty penny to get rid of them. I had fans that were a carryover from a gaming starter system i bought last year, and they lit up green. It was awful.
It's so hard to find unlit performance parts these days. I finally got everything but my video card unlit, but you almost have to pay extra for that! All the mid shelf gear is lit it seems like so you either go ultra cheap/low build quality on your fans, or you spring for premium noctuas in plain black. There is not an appealing middle ground. The corsairs for example, of any quality, are all RGB these days. Even if you don't light it, they're still white. Ick.
My next GPU will be a founders edition from nvidia because they are low profile, no lights.
How do you feel about lights on your PC?
Am I the only one that hates them? I can't even stand the popularity of them. I am not quite resentful, but almost there because it makes sourcing the right unlit parts difficult.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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My kid has plenty of them in his.
My various computers don't have any. The most lights I see from where I'm sitting are on the network switch.
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Yeah, I've considered buying some dells and stuff - if nothing else because they don't look like toys, but I'm a bit of a hot rodder when it comes to the PCs I use even these days - it's a carry over from when I was younger and I actually *enjoyed* building them. I like them to be buttery smooth and fast for exactly how I use it, and it's hard to get that with pre-built systems unless they offer you a ton of customization and/or you're willing to replace parts.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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I've got a few lights on my PC but it's tucked away where I can't really see it.
But if I did have it in view I don't think I would want a lot of lights.
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I love lights, but in moderation. Like sugar and alcohol.
Really bright very narrow LED light beams are not good for your eyes.
Hot rod machines, yes. Love CPU and GPU horsepower.
I have had my share and still do.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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"Power on" and "Caps", yes.
But the others get covered with black masking tape if I can't turn them off any other way.
It's getting so that you can virtually read a book by the light of charger / device standby indicators in this house - heck even my headphones and game controller glowed by the light of USB you can't turn off unless you unplug the whole PC ... masking tape to the rescue!
On that subject, why would headphones need lights at all? Are "normal people's" eyes on stilts so they can see their own ears? 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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My cordless (noise-cancelling) cans have a charge/full led and an "on", both discreet pinpoints. The latter has saved me from getting on a long flight with them flat.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Twitch TV (and others) where people are streaming their faces with the games they're playing has pushed the aesthetic (read obnoxious) side of computer hardware. The chairs have become ridiculous as well. 
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Power on, caps, num lock and keyboard backlight (to see keys when light is not enough) ...
Any other thing is a waste of energy to say the least and I hate it.
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I have a Das 5Qs and it has a relatively uncommon RGB lighting system.
The keyboard itself has some subtle light bars on the side that add a nice ambient light to the desk area around the keyboard - not too much either, but the real prize is the lit keys. The backing nor the keycaps are lit, just the letters/symbols themselves. It's very subtle, and nice to use in the dark, particularly since they're programmable so you can light the home row a different color, for example. There are also applets that let you link the colors to new mail notifications, CPU usage, etc.
It's very nice. The only RGB lighting system I really like.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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They're useless and stupid.
But I'm an old coot so..
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Ditto.
Twice.
Keep Calm and Carry On
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I use laptops, but having used desktop boxes in the past, I couldn't give a rats *** about lights and clear cases - historically, the boxes have sat under the desk as far away from my feet as possible so I don't accidentally kick them, and as far away from ears so I don't have to hear the fans (yeah, fans, not cooling pumps.) I don't want to see into the box, I just want it to work. 
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I've found that from a purely practical standpoint, I really love being able to see completely into my case (which is all glass on 4 sides) because I can tell when the fans are dying at a glance - just replaced them in fact because of that - and I know when it needs to be dusted.
I don't keep them on the floor because of dust and pet hair, but my case is a small cube so it sits nicely on its little rolling stand.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Hard pass for me.
I don't mind lights on a PC, but I should be able to turn them off. I have systems that run 24/7, and bright blue LEDs at night can illuminate an entire room. And that's not me saying that's a good thing. If I want some lights, I'll turn them on myself, TYVM.
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That's exactly where I'm at. After some expense (which needed to happen anyway, to be honest) I'm down to a tolerable RGB strip on the top of my video card. Everything else is dark where it used to be kind of an alienesque green.
My next video card will be an NVidia founders edition card. No lights!
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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I have had PCs since the days when their fans were so noisy that everyone around here went to the guys at the acoustics lab at the local Engineering University to have them custom build a noise cabinet for their PCs. (I never got to know if this was a regular service from the U or something those guys did in their spare time.) So my PC has always been enclosed, invisible.
When I bough my own house, I drilled a hole through the wall from the living room to the entrance, so I could put my PC out there. The PC I have today doesn't need it for the noise (the one that I had when drilling the hole did!), but from old habit, it still sits there. I see no reason to move the tower cabinet into the living room. The screen has a small USB hub for memory sticks, camera etc. without having go go out in the entrance; that covers most needs. The keyboard/mouse dongle goes in the screen USB hub.
So I see the lights when I walk past the cover in the entrance. They are quite limited, and do not bother me.
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My Hardware in the PC has not lights and I bought / mounted it after you did yours.
Patriot Viper RAM, AMD Radeon 6900XT, BeQuiet Fans... all dark.
The only leds are the power button and the G in my mouse (Logitech G502). And when I slept in the office room due to water problems, I covered the mouse with a towel.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Yeah all my new parts are dark. It was the old stuff that was lit. I finally replaced everything but the video card.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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LED indicators are not decorations; they should be used only for status indications.
All I want on a keyboard are indicators for Num Lock, Caps Lock, and Scroll Lock.
All I want on a desktop computer are indicators for power, mute, and Ethernet.
All I want on a portable are indicators for power/charging, mute, airplane mode, and Ethernet (if available).
I recently bought myself a Das Keyboard 4. one of the reasons I didn't go for the Das Keyboard 5 was the RGB backlighting.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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From the owner of a 5 - the lighting is extremely subtle and only lights the letters on the keys, and two little bars on the side of the keyboard. It adds next to zero ambient light, and personally as much as I normally loathe lights, it's also nice seeing home row in the dark. If they were bright, or otherwise disturbing I'd have returned the keyboard. Instead I found I like it, and I didn't even count it among the lights on my computer because I don't think of it that way.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Ditto
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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I didn't wanted them. but I kinda like them
I have a fractal design pop air case with the 3 rgb fans set to "white" (ish) and they are not too aggressive.
and the internals, the motherboard and graphic cards only have a small amount of lights
I admit that sometimes I set the to color cycling.
it helps with FPS in games (lol) .
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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honey the codewitch wrote: OH THE LIGHTS. I just paid a pretty penny to get rid of them
I buy desktop computers for myself.
I have a desk.
The desktop box goes under the desk.
Out of sight out of mind.
Only problem is remembering to pull it out every once in a while to vacuum out the dust.
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