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modified 26-Feb-22 23:28pm.
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How does someone go about blocking an idiot here?
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Hit the "Red flag" in the top right of their home page (click on their username, it'll take you there) and select the appropriate option: "spam" or "abuse".
Then report them here: Spam and Abuse Watch Discussion Boards[^] explaining why they deserve to be a member no longer.
The community will decide their fate.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Why are all my new messages being flagged as potential spam? What did I do?
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This site sometimes gets deluged with spam, so some posts first have to go through a moderator. You haven't done anything wrong, but this can happen until you have a certain number of reputation points, particularly if your post contains a link to some other site.
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No links or anything. It also seems that my reputation points and rank have disappeared. I'm guessing that Chris has let the hamsters alone or C
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has a software problem, too bad .
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While your account is quite old, the number of messages you've posted is small. Once a few more of your posts have been accepted through the spam filter it will stop being so concerned about you.
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject
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To further what Sean said, sometimes an older/inactive account suddenly starts posting a bunch of stuff and it looks like it may have been hacked.
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I am a registered Professional Engineer qualified as a Petroleum Engineer, but under the rules, I'm not supposed to add Software Engiineering to my qualifications, unless I pass a test orget a registered Software Engineer to vouch for me.
The tests is no longer offered, sothe reference is the only available option now.
Is anyone here a registered Software Engineer ?
Regards,
Walt
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I never knew someone needed to be "registered" to be a software engineer. Interesting. 
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It was/is an attempt to make the engineering discipline follow a trade-skill-like path to being an "official" engineer (4yr college -> 4yr or more apprenticeship -> testing -> periodic re-certification). For software at least I lob into into the Mensa pile - useless except for your ego. So to directly respond to your statement: we don't.
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In many US states you cannot have “engineer” in your job title unless you are a registered, Professional Engineer. If you are in engineering role but are not a PE yet, then you add EIT to the role.
Same is true for Architect. You cannot have that in your job title without the state certification.
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which states? NY is not one of them. Neither is Florida, California, Pennsylvania, New Jersey. You know how I know? Those are the states that we have devs in working remote. All of us have official company titles of Software Engineer or Senior Software Engineer.
Been doing this a very long time, and I have never, ever heard of this, not once.
So, please educate me.
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First hit on Google from Massachusetts.
Massachusetts state law prohibits an individual who is not licensed as a professional engineer in the Commonwealth from using a job title which implies to the public that the individual is capable of performing engineering services. See M.G. L. c. 112, §§ 81D, 81T.
Maybe I am more sensitive to this because I was an independent consultant for 30 years. I never would have billed time to “software engineering” or “systems architecture.”
A company that bills the time of a person with a title of “software engineer” to a customer and includes that info in the billing could find themselves in legal hot water if an engagement ends on a sour note.
A hit on CA limits restrictions to use of specific titles like “consulting engineer”, and others that you would expect like “professional engineer”, “electrical engineer “, etc.
It is HR’s and legal departments job to know these rules, not the developers.
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We have software engineers in Boston, Mass, and they never "registered" for the title.
if there is a law, it is not enforced, at all where I have worked, and others I know have worked. I have never heard of this ever.
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I agree it is not enforced.
Since I had the results already up, Ohio says it is fine to use for internal job titles, but then the next sentence talks about “public representation” of same.
That touches on the scenario I raised where lawyers would be involved.
Definitely legal’s problem (and why the state where you execute a contract matters).
Don’t forget that lawyers write the laws to keep their trial lawyer friends in business. Shakespeare had a line about that.😊
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The way I heard it the law is only enforced when someone complains, and then only against the person that was complained about. That probably boils down to "not enforced" for most people, though, especially if most of the folks one is dealing with are convinced that software engineering isn't engineering within the meaning of the act.
It's only slightly terrifying that serious legal trouble is plausibly just a public complaint away for me and plenty of other software developers. At least I have the excuse that I don't provide any services to the public whatsoever. 
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The BLS classifies computer software engineer as a computer specialist which is a separate category to engineer. Due to this I believe you might have issues saying you're an "engineer" but not with saying you're a "software engineer." As dumb as that sounds, that seems to be the current state of affairs. Multiple organizations like the NCEES have shut down their software PE testing due to a lack of participation over the years precisely because it isn't required.
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I got my BSME in 89 and passed the EIT. I never did go in for a PE exam. For that reason I don't claim to be a mechanical engineer, only that I have my BS in ME. It was impressed upon me at Purdue that I could not legally use the term 'engineer' until I passed a PE.
This designation is for civil courts only. It isn't breaking the law, but it can make you liable in civil suits against you.
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I guess it depends on the jurisdiction, but here in Texas and most US states, it is illegal and unethical to use the word Engineer in your title without being registered.
I'm a registered Professional Engineer (PE)specifically for Petroleum Engineering, but not for software Engineering.If I claimed to do Software or any other type of Engineering, I could face sanctions and fines.
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In my research the other day I saw legal arguments off aTexas AG website from 2002 where they were arguing that you should not have the word “engineer” on a business card unless you were a PE. I did not track down if there was any final ruling on the matter, it seemed more like a brief.
I guess if you are debugging, you can call yourself a “software surgeon”, “Don’t bother me now, I have a patient on the table.”
😊
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Very little software is engineered, so there are very few actual software engineers; I've certainly never met one.
Software developer is a much more accurate description. Software architect might suffice for some.
(My father was an electronics engineer; he designed military communications systems.)
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Walt, I'm a certifiable computer engineer. Oh wait... 
For what it's worth, I've never heard of a context where a PE certification/registration was relevant to a software engineering position. In point of fact, I'd been under the impression that the PE regulatory bodies vehemently disliked the notion of certifying software professionals, and did not consider what we do to be 'engineering'. We do seem to make a dandy living at it, despite our lack.
If you want to claim software engineering skills, go right ahead. If someone gripes, it won't be us.
Software Zen: delete this;
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It all depends on whether your (potentially unprofessional) work could kill someone, and how that is "managed" (engineered) with respect to responsibility and control of the work.
E.g. the Boeing 737MAX 'software', or the Toyota uncontrolled acceleration, or the London Ambulance service despatch system, or the UK Post Office "Horizon" system (high profile, but few relative to exploding petroleum installations).
Software is difficult to characterised with the old 'physical world' mindset where, for example, the electricians' work can be separated from that of the electrical engineers, but in the logical software world, the developer provides the design drawings(code), which is (essentially) the last touch point before final installation.
However, very little software is a direct killer of the public, especially if it only manipulates logic and data. So, it's going to take a while before the engineering part is cleanly carved out of software development (cf "just coding").
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