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It has corona, Trump, abortion, CNN and FoxNews, no doubt they have discussions on religion and environment too... Right up your alley!
Now please stop whining about the Soapbox.
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Sander Rossel wrote: Now please stop whining about the Soapbox.
You missed the joke. 
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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No, I didn't.
I just didn't think it's funny 
I'm serious though, all you former Soapbox people should take it to that forum instead.
It seems like the perfect replacement of the Soapbox and you might actually like it.
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Sander Rossel wrote: all you former Soapbox people should take it to that forum instead.
Take what? 
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Now you're being deliberately obtuse.
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Nope. I made a silly post in reference to one below that has absolutely nothing to do with soapbox material and then Sander misses the joke and now you're trying to claim something that isn't there.
Y'all need to lighten up. 
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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ZurdoDev wrote: I made a silly post in reference to one below that has absolutely nothing to do with soapbox material
The other day a group of users complained about not being able to speak about serious things in the lounge (I don't remember right now if you were in that group or not). I just gave it a try to, that so far is still civilized (and not a small thread by the way). And now this? I see the joke but, on the other hand, I don't see the need for it, sorry.
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Nelek wrote: I see the joke but, on the other hand, I don't see the need for it, sorry.
It was just a silly little piece of humor. It's amazing how many of you are way overreacting.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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I thought I wasn't overreacting, I was just curious and honest. But today is not my best day, so let's leave it here. 
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Sander Rossel wrote: I'm serious though, all you former Soapbox people should take it to that forum instead.
what so you can talk about bad music, furry cats, and cream puffs? no thanks. 
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On my own I correct the dead before death. (8)
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Isolated
"We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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A man of few words
"We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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This is going to bring consequences (whether it is real or not). I am not wanting to start a political discussion and I hope you can behave and that it doesn't degenerate to soapbox level.
If you can't avoid it, I will delete the whole thread.
I decide to post it, because it is already circulating in the news of several countries and I have already seen it translated to 3 different languages. It is only a matter of time, that you get to this through other channels.
BREAKING: Salvini Demands Answers – Does a 2015 Italian Documentary Prove the Coronavirus was created in a Chinese Lab? (WATCH) – RAIR[^]
IMPORTANT NOTE: The video goes about A coronavirus, not about THE coronavirus.
The problem is that it is so similar, that the polemic is exploding anyways.
IMPORTANT NOTE 2: Only because they were investigating something similar doesn't mean they are guilty of this pandemia.
I want to bring focus to the: "only because we can doesn't mean that we should"
It is clear that many medical and technological advances are directly connected with dubvious experiments that ended right. But is it always worth the risks? We might do somethings to try to help, but at the end still be the cause of a big evil.
ADDITION:
I am not asking about "if they are involved", My question is more: "Do you agree with such experiments where we interfere that much with nature laws and that could potentially explode in our face and be a big evil?" (more in the line of 12 monkeys[^] or contagion[^]
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modified 2-Apr-20 5:51am.
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If you look hard enough, (particularly on the internet), you will find some prediction/conspiracy theory for every possible event. You also need to bear in mind that TV program makers are more inclined to sensationalism, than facts. I'm betting Nostradamus also predicted it!
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That, especially that network. Most programs on Rai3 are crap, they amplify any hoax and sell them as facts. My mother is quite fond of them and I had to spend many unhappy hours debunking all the idiocy they spew regularly about computer security, darknets and so on.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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den2k88 wrote: That, especially that network. Most programs on Rai3 are crap, they amplify any hoax and sell them as facts. My mother is quite fond of them and I had to spend many unhappy hours debunking all the idiocy they spew regularly about computer security, darknets and so on.
I wouldn't know that... then I suppose is like our Telecinco
or the newspaper "Bild" in Germany
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Yep, and that's public television for which we pay a mandatory tax to sustain in order to eep it free of advertisements (which is not), free of political manipulation (which is not) and with quality content (again, it is not).
The private tv is even worse, much much worse. And that's another problem: the "cultured" people tend to be biased to what they hear on Rai3...
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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den2k88 wrote: Yep, and that's public television for which we pay a mandatory tax to sustain in order to eep it free of advertisements (which is not), free of political manipulation (which is not) and with quality content (again, it is not).
The private tv is even worse, much much worse. And that's another problem: the "cultured" people tend to be biased to what they hear on Rai3...
So... more of the same as in Spain.
Years ago the statal 2nd channel was the best. Reportages, Documentaries, other stuff... giving always the impresion of objectivity and well documented.
Nowadays... you can forget it.
1st public Channel an extension of the public relationships of the government. Depressive 
2nd public Channel tries to keep an independant image, but you see that they are under pressure and can't avoid external interferences. Still one of the best channels in comparison
Private channels:
Telecinco - Sensationalism in pure essence. Realities to keep population dumb done with people even dumber
Antena 3 - One political agenda
La sexta - The other political agenda
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The only channels that still have a "decent" vote from my side are the ones with no news, no moderated programs that only schedule series, films and cartoons. But even they have tons of publicity that end annoying the hell out of you.
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All I can say is Thank God for auntie Beeb!
... Which the current alt-right British government wants to turn into The Ministry of Truth[^].
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Although I definitely lean to the left, I have to agree that "public television" is far from neutral. It has pretty much been hijacked by the far left.
On the other side, the biggest "News" network in the US, FoxNews, is in fact not a news station, except for a little bit now and then. It is a non-stop opinion platform - and as such, has no accountability for spreading misinformation. It is, after all, just their opinion.
This has been going on long enough where, with entire generation(s) having been brought up as with this as their reality, they gladly swallow their own puke - it's what they want to hear so it must be true. They new all along!
In various forms, opposing opinions are just labeled "fake news" with any number of variations on the name, but in all cases, making ignoring unpleasant truths that much easier.
New and Information is now firmly in the Cult category.
We vs They continues to become, ever more so, WE vs THEY.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: New and Information is now firmly in the Cult category.
Or in the Mistery section, because it hides from the public and it is not clear anymore
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My problem with US mainstream media is twofold. First, it pretends to be neutral when it's not. In most other countries, newspapers in particular don't pretend that they have no political bias. Most other countries also have state-owned media, so it's pretty obvious where the bias will be there.
Which leads into my second problem. As someone who would like to see governments--particularly federal--cut to a small fraction of their current size, mainstream media comes down on the side of bigger government far more often that not. It's basically an echo chamber for establishment thought, which in the US is either the Welfare-Warfare Party or the Warfare-Welfare Party.
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Basically, although not all wrong, your viewpoint is heavily tainted with that Euro point of view.
Everyone there (and Canada, too?) is always bitching about the US getting involved in everything - but, with the current administration not getting involved I see the EU and it's cronies waiting to see what the US will do.
Maybe if they used their own soldiers and treasure (to pay for these) then they would be seeing the world a bit differently: more cautious about who they support and more willing to act preemptively, instead of pulling yet-another continental Neville Chamberlain. Almost a contradiction. Putin knew full well the EU, etc., wouldn't do anything on their own.
Armies are expensive, and most of the time, IF YOU ARE LUCKY, just sitting on their hands instead of blowing people and things to smaller pieces. Try not having them - and see the Crimea experiment reach all the way to annexing Brussels.
It would be nice if you'd all develop some balls and send navy's to the South China sea. Or - maybe their confiscating both the minerals and the trade routes is just OK with you?
So - in most other countries - saying that they don't pretend to be neutral? Yet they all claim to be telling the truth - implicitly claiming to be neutral, are they not? Maybe your thought that non-US people are somehow more clever in understanding this? That, in and of itself a bias you/they have absorbed and, making you feel good about yourself/themselves, embraced.
I see the rabble protesting (in Euro-Media - the US media ignores way too much) based upon ignorance of the facts - just like everyone else.
The problem with this response is that it really requires some real political opinion and naming names - and that's what the Soapbox was for.
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