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As I recall, .NET got generics somewhat before Java. (More than a year? I don't recall exactly).
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honey the codewitch wrote: Microsoft didn't put generics into 1.x I think because of time constraints, and if so they should have waited, IMO.
.net was so radically different with so many improvements, the fact that generics wasn't included was pretty irrelevant. To put things into perspective, .net 1 shipped with email classes that were just an interop wrapper to the CDONTS COM object. If there was no native support for things as fundamental as email, is it any wonder there were no generics?
For things like List<T> we just used CollectionBase. There's no major need to programatically determine the underlying collection type...back then or now, it's a fringe requirements that might be important to you, but not the masses, and delaying the rollout of .net for something no-one really needs would not be a good idea.
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honey the codewitch wrote: Microsoft didn't put generics into 1.x I think because of time constraints, and if so they should have waited, IMO.
IIRC they couldn't wait because they'd lost the lawsuit with Sun over J++; and needed to get a nominal replacement stack out asap.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Oh yeah - i worked there during that mess.
Real programmers use butterflies
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At MS or at Sun? Either way, do you have any stories to share from the inside?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Sorry, I was at Microsoft. For the record, I was glad Sun was suing over Java, and I'm glad MS dropped Visual J++ because it was garbage.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Wow, whining about something that was given away for free. Remember, you have never needed Visual Studio to compile a dotNet project. VS just made it easier.
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I never said otherwise. Why are you even responding?
Real programmers use butterflies
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Can you pass a scuba diving course even if all your grades are below C level?
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It would appear that you're still sick.
Get well soon!
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Only if something fishy is going on... 
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you suggesting he bends the rules?
pestilence [ pes-tl-uh ns ] noun
1. a deadly or virulent epidemic disease. especially bubonic plague.
2. something that is considered harmful, destructive, or evil.
Synonyms: pest, plague, CCP
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Water you talking about? I know posting ToD's is a tankless job, but it swimiscale nature lends itself thereto.
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Yes. You just bubble up!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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It seems hard to fathom, but it's true.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
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Going off course, of course, we should socially distance by one fathom, so much easier to remember than six feet or two metres. 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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That is risky!
The English term "fathom" and the Norwegian term "favn" has a common root, and was originally the distance between your fingertips when you stretch your arms straight out.
Problems occur with the modern use of "favn". In human relations, "å favne", "å omfavne", "å favne om" is to put your arms around someone, to embrace them (in a warm and heartily sense). "Jeg vil ta deg i min favn" (I will take you in my arms) is even closer, more protecting, like a parent holding around arms around his child. Definitely not any social distancing. Quite to the contrary.
Danish and Swedish have the same issue (although in Swedish I believe it is "famn"). So I thin we should rather stick to the kicking style of indicating distance.
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OT
How do you do?
We need the daily medical bulletin, since you are a CodeProject Heritage Site. 
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Today's Special Offer Symptom: dizzy spells. Sit up, and you'd better sit down pretty quickly. Lie down, and the world s tarts to spin like I've had ten pints of beer ...
Still not eating - but I've found that Lime Squash seems to help with dehydration and doesn't "bounce". Herself is better than me in that regard, she can drink Complan (a meal substitute) - but she's now on Amoxicillin because of the blood that's coming up with her mucus.
Neighbours are being wonderful - so many offers of help with shopping it's unreal - though one couple are apparently considering murdering each other. We suggested she beat him to death with a frozen leg of lamb, cook it, and feed his remains to the dog / George's pigs...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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As long as you're drinking (in the aquatic sense ), you should be OK. You can live without food a lot longer than you can without water.
Being susceptible to dehydration issues myself, I was told that ordinary Coca Cola (non-diet) is a good emergency rehydration fluid - available everywhere, and contains most of what the medical rehydration fluids contain, albeit in different concentrations. You might also try Gatorade or similar, if you can get it.
Herself's symptoms sound nasty. I hope that you both come through OK.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Quote: Today's Special Offer Symptom: dizzy spells. Sit up, and you'd better sit down pretty quickly. Lie down, and the world s tarts to spin like I've had ten pints of beer ...
I told you: "Don't try Nagy medicine!".
Quote: We suggested she beat him to death with a frozen leg of lamb, cook it, and feed his remains to the dog / George's pigs...
I told you: "Nagy medicine abuse causes delirium".
I supposed it softer than that. Hope both of you will recover soon.
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If you find yourself in a big dark tunnel, with a bright light at its end, please, please, turn around and run!
"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke!
Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
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Hope you have a speedy recovery.
I just found out this morning my sisters ex husband died of covid a few days ago in Wales. Its one nasty virus...
All the best
A Fine is a Tax for doing something wrong
A Tax is a Fine for doing something good.
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Hang in there both of you.
We are all thinking of you and hoping for the best.
I did hear today that a Welsh farmer was killed by a water buffalo.
I had no idea that you had these fellas over there.
Get better soon mate.
Hoping that the worst is over for you both.
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grralph1 wrote: a Welsh farmer was killed by a water buffalo.
I had no idea that you had these fellas over there.
Welsh farmers? Oh yeah - we got lots of 'em!
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