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Any better than Liquid Sky?
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You can see the Dev at Microsoft are excited. Scott Hanselman is jumping frantically.
I know of at least of 3 exciting topics (for me) that are (most likely) coming:
- Blazor WebAssembly
- WinUI 3.0
- Rust and ... WinUI? at least Rust and Windows API
They want us to register and join virtual chat rooms!
But, it's like the middle of the week, Ill be working and going home to relax... mm.. do I really want to join live stream (that might not stream interesting stuff in my little (time) window of interest in the evening....)?!?
I wonder, what did you guys do?
Anyway, I will certainly consume the recorded session afterwards! 
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Usually I don't watch those, and although the subjects are interesting I have no need for them at the moment, so the same as you: watch them later maybe.
Now I'm off biking as the sun is shining and the 5th of may is a free day over here (liberation day).
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I have tried to read up on it and honestly I still have no idea exactly what it is...
Any idea of what it will entail? Will we get anything back from it that is actually useful?
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Basically they will show case all the new technology that they are working on. Maybe release some of them right after (or during) the show.
I, for one, is excited to see demos and see code samples about the tech I mentioned.
But if you are comfortably happy with your tools, averse to un-needed change, and would need something really powerful that punch through your code and make it all magically way better, faster, easier and more powerful to even hope to stir an inch of interest... mmm... nah, don't think it's gonna happen, so you can safely pass! 
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Super Lloyd wrote: I, for one, is excited to see demos and see code samples about the tech I mentioned.
I would be interested in something like that, if that is how it goes down. What I don't want to see however is a 48-hour "sales pitch".
If there was a more structured plan to it I might be able to justify dedicated work time to it, but with the information I found I guess I could just sign-up and watch it with one eye while I am working (no commitment option).
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I registered and currently try to find out what I will join - time/timezone wise...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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why register for the live event?
let the newbies and 'reporters' watch it and after see the comments / reviews they post.
if anything is worthwhile (based on the comments / reviews) watch a replay later.
- will anything in it be so life changing you cant wait a day/week/month to find out?
- even if there are amazing items, what about the hours of dross before and after that snippet?
the reason it's live is to generate [mostly sales & marketing] hype,
- first 9% of the content is introducing themselves
- next 90% of the content is there to serve the hype.
= 1% useful content left (minus the patting themselves on the back?)
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so 1% ... i'm sure the word azure will be mentioned a lot and how easy it is...
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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do people build anything with these new stuff mentioned? or is just an another one off those stuff microsoft wants to kill..
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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Honestly I have no idea what is happening these days. It seems everyone agrees that new technology needs to appear fast and frequently, but I don't think anybody actually understands why they are doing it.
Yet another downside of such an interconnected world: the easier it is to reach people, the more effort we need to expend to make sure we are the most popular.
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What stuff that was mentioned?! 
If you mean the technology I specifically mentioned as exciting me?
Yes then, yes I plan to use them. At least winUI and blazor webassembly. Rust and WinAPI, maybe.. if it's as easy as I hope!
But hey, if you are one of those people who still find WPF or .NET core intimidating.. I guess yo probably will not find it interesting...
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Well, it's free, so I thought why not sign up. I'm pretty sure it will be interesting, but work might get in the way.
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What I mean is I probably will watch afterwards....
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Super Lloyd wrote: - Rust and ... WinUI? at least Rust and Windows API
Microsoft have produced a Rust variant of the WinRT 'language projection', which gives Rust the same access to WinRT as C++, or any of the other languages (.NET ones, Javascript/Typescript). It's something I want to examine more closely, as Rust is one of the newer languages I like...
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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I played a tiny bit with it! 
But.. from what I have seen.. can't use Xaml file yet?! 
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I registered, but I'm still missing a time schedule! For sure there are lots of things I'm not interested in and I will NOT sit there idly two days.
Especially if I have to serve my bites myself... I mean, the one thing about conferences are the loads of food every tiny break, aren't they? And for those who like it, free beer of course...
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I live nowhere near a grocery store and have them delivered. After all this virus stuff started, I could not get half the things I ordered. The other day a received two boxes; one packed nice and neat, the other one was filled by some who thought just throwing everything in was OK. I am lucky they did not break anything.
Here is a good one:
My Order: Baking powder. (out of stock)
There Substitute: Arman Hamer baking soda freezer deodorizer. (Ya Right!  )
Luckily they had more orders than they could fill that day and canceled my order. Not, mind you, reschedule for another day, just canceled.
INTP
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." - Edsger Dijkstra
"I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks. " - Daniel Boone
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Same issue here. Orders take several days to be delivered, and half of items are missing.
"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke!
Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
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I just updated my May list of my food store.
When Corona hit, I made a revision of the inventory list, and deciced to make a monthly check:
First, for each kind of product to ensure that I am not below the minimum threshold.
Second: In my very simplistic spreadsheet (no sor of calculation, its only function is to manage a table of rows and columns), I have not only entered the amount in store, but also the "Best Before" date, to remind myself of what I've got down in the basement that I shold make use of before it gets too old.
One element that I have found handy: In the lefmost column, identifying the product, I have also indicated a "typical" best-before interval, both as a reminder of which goods should not tbe stored for too long, and in those cases where I stock stuff where I cannot find any BB.
I do not have everything listed in my inventory. "Baking powder" was actually missing. That has do do with me not using it too often, but that might change (and I know how!). I guess that the stuff has a quite long shelf life, so I might very well buy a new box long before the old one is empty.
So, thanks for the reminder.
Btw: I do get surprises now and then: A few years back, I discovered that my salt was way past its Best Before date. Huh?? NaCl is NaCli - isn't it? If it deteriorates with age, what does it deteriorate to?? Anyway, the bag was almost empty, so soon after, I had to buy a new bag anyway. Now that bag is past its BB by more than a year! They say we are using too much salt in our food. I just can't believe that applies to me ...
Probably the BB refers to the "danger" of the salt clumping. So for long-time "emergency" storage, I am considering buying another bag, making sure that it is reasonaby dry (by leaving it for at least 24 h in at most 30% relative humidity at 25 degees C), and then vacuum seal it before it goes down to the basement. I do not need much salt to alter the taste of my food, but I can easily imagine situations where I might want to use salt to preserve food, in particular in case of a power outage in mid summer.
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Member 7989122 wrote: A few years back, I discovered that my salt was way past its Best Before date. Huh?? NaCl is NaCli - isn't it? If it deteriorates with age, what does it deteriorate to??
Sounds like manufacturer defensive posturing. I believe there are dozens of fungi that can colonize salt including Aspergillus.
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It was a mutation of a tubor-born variant, Potato Chipsis.
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I suspect the reason is the same as here.
Everything meant for human consumption has to have a best before date by law. And the law makes no room for exceptions, because that list of exceptions would be to long, indistinct and full of ambiguities.
The manufacturers happily oblige, because there will always be that idiot throwing away a bag of sugar out of date, and then they can sell more.
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The last year we have had a number of products being labeled "Best Before so-and-so, but may be perfectly fine long thereafter", or something like that. We are getting back to the moral from my childhood: You never throw away food! ... There has been several TV programs and news reports about it the last year or two, people who manage to live exclusively on "throwaway food" without any problems (one store chain has for at least a year had as a rule that any food expiring the same day, or is past Best Before, is yours for free), etc.
Today it is very negative for the image of a food producer if it is revealed that he throws away food that could be eaten. The food stores cannot legally sell stuff past the last day of consumption (I am not sure if it is as strict for Best Before). Almost all stores have a "discount shelf" for food that has only a few days left. So instead of throwing it away, I can buy it at half price. I see lots of people searching those shelves. The stores are getting better at estimating the sales volume, so ever more often the discount shelves are almost empty.
So consumers are learning not to waste food. In our canteen at work, we frequently can find e.g. stews where one ingredient is the meat or fish that was not sold out the day before; they take pride in not throwing away any food. Now the food industry itself is being attacked, and they are improving (but have a long way to go!). One TV program about the poulty industry revealed that hens produce eggs for a year, then they are killed and used as filling in concrete (it sounds crazy to me!) - customers want chicken, not hens. But after this program was broadcast, buyers started asking for hens, and it became available in the stores. The third major actor is the public institutions, like hospitals and schools and old age homes: They consider health security so important that they rather throw away than run any sort of risk.
So we are getting better. Slowly.
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Member 7989122 wrote: One TV program about the poulty industry revealed that hens produce eggs for a year, then they are killed and used as filling in concrete (it sounds crazy to me!)
Yes, that's pure bullshit! Sounds like vegan propaganda to me.
No one would put organic materials in concrete, it would be really bad for the quality.
And no one would raise and feed a chicken for a whole year, to just use it for one more year. That's stupid.
Hens are considered productive for about five to seven years. After that they're going to slaughter like any other chicken. They're just not used for the same purpose as chickens are. They become dog food, chicken stock and ground chicken meat patties and such things.
In contrary to popular propaganda, the food industry isn't wasteful. It's money we are talking about.
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