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When I post here , asking for help
do I have to spell it out ?
"...I am looking for a solution..."
is it not obvious?
or is this forum now a " social media chat " box?
Reason for THIS post
I have recently experienced a "reply" which basically
restated / reformatted my post
and did not actually offered a solution.
End of rant
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The members of this community all help others for free on their own time, so the help you get can range from amazing to...not always amazing. We, generally, try though.
If there's a response to one of your questions that's inappropriate you can vote it down. If there's a response which is trying to help you format a question in a way that makes it easier for others to answer then that can be helpful.
Without knowing the post I can't really address your specific complaint.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I do appreciate you taking time and respond.
As noted - it was a rant...
It is normal to meet people with different attitude, and
I do not believe judging, pointing out specific
would be helpful, mainly because when the one who acquires attitude " I am better then you are "
is generally immune to any suggestions to change.
I have been using and (sometime ) abusing this forum for years and most of the time the discussions have been on very professional level and helpful.
And I do appreciate that.
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Salvatore Terress wrote: or is this forum now a " social media chat " box? Ther lounge? Definitively Yes.
Look at the top of this board.Quote: Welcome to the Lounge
For discussing anything related to a software developer's life but is not for programming questions. Got a programming question?
The Lounge is rated Safe For Work. If you're about to post something inappropriate for a shared office environment, then don't post it. No ads, no abuse, and no programming questions. Trolling, (political, climate, religious or whatever) will result in your account being removed.
The "got a programming question" in red is a link that brings you to the correct place to ask.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Salvatore Terress wrote: and did not actually offered a solution. Maybe there isn't a simple solution. Or perhaps your question was not clear enough for anyone to figure out what it was all about.
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You must agree that you regularly see cases - I am not excluding CP here - where other readers are so eager to 'help' that they do not waste the time to read the entire problem description before writing down their 'contribution'.
I have learned to start my problem descriptions with a declaration of what is not my problem: E.g. I am not looking for an alternative to tool X, I am just using tool X to illustrate a general problem, and that is what I want to solve! Spelling that out in a conclusive remark is almost useless; half of the readers won't notice it. Also I have learned to be very explicit about the core of my problem, always phrasing it as a question, preferably prefixed with 'My problem is this: ... ?' - otherwise, helpers might expand to great length on any detail that you have mentioned, but only to explain the problem, not as the problem.
Having lots of people eager to help you is a great thing - and one major reason why I stick with CP. Everything comes with a price, like a fair share of 'helpful' answers that serves more to display helpfulness than to be of real help. I think that is a moderate price to pay. Others may have higher expectations. Maybe they should try SO. Maybe they return to CP after a week or a month . (I did.)
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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OP is well known for poorly phrased questions and complaining that he doesn't get a good enough service.
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I agree 100%, which is why I do not offer help to the OP anymore. If one is to look at the enormous amount of questions asked it qualifies the OP as a NCV (not explaining this) to a point where it seems that we are a free lecturing institute offering, irrespective if it is time given of our own!
It now seems that it is expected of anyone who is willing to help to do so as if there is a salary involved or else... - totally disgusting.
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trønderen wrote: where other readers are so eager to 'help' that they do not waste the time to read the entire problem description before writing down their 'contribution'.
Ah, I see you're familiar with SO's Standard Operating Procedure.
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I will expect flaming repose , but I " all I know I learn at kindergarten " comes to mind...
This forum have very simple and pointed "rules" about working with non English speaking folks, likes me.
There is a part about "read the post "...
and that is too far down the rules list for SOME English speaking folks to read...
Unfortunately there is nada a'bout conversing with
people of different levels of TECHNICAL knowledge.
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All feedback / answers have to be "taken with a grain of salt".
I've had to develop very thick skin because I post a lot of questions on StackOverflow and most of the time they are down-voted, answer incorrectly etc.
Check out this one which the person answered completely wrong and tried to say I was wrong[^].
In the end, I discovered the answer myself and wrote it up for myself.
I actually once posted a question to electronics.stackexchange.com (where the "engineers" tolerate nothing outside of their understanding) about why electrolytic capacitors are rated for higher voltage as the capacitance (measured in farads (uF, pF, etc) goes down.
Not only did they not answer it, they deleted my question entirely and it had taken me a long while to write up the question and I wish I still had that question because it was interesting.
I know that it must also be infinitely more difficult when there is a language difference involved also. Hope you get things worked out.
If you get a chance, check this one out where I answered the question correctly but got down-voted and then the person tried to tell me why my working code was wrong. it was ridiculous.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46075228/get-http-response-status-code-of-urlsession-shared-datatask/78078754#78078754[^]
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I will say to your defense:
Most IT people (or you could make it more general, if you like: Most people with a university degree) are very poor at explaining a problem within their field of expertise to someone outside the field. Their advanced knowledge stands in the way.
Even when I ask my co-workers to explain something (I have a Master in Comp.Sci), I may have to guide them through their explanation, telling them 'First, explain how this part works, we'll take the rest afterwards', rather than everything messed up. They use terms that are specific to the stuff they are trying to explain, without explaining the term, and I have to stop them and demand an explanation. When they introduce some 'concept', I ask questions about how this concept differs from this and that older and well known concept. And so on. A good teacher/lecturer would structure his presentation, explain terms, refer to related, known stuff, and adapt the presentation to whatever background the audience has.
Most IT people just opens the sluice gates to let their immense flood of advance knowledge drown you. When the audience doesn't understand a word, the IT expert usually blames the audience Unfortunately, publishing books is so cheap nowadays that you see the same in a lot of IT books: You senses that the author is really knowledgeable, but the explanations are outright terrible. Sometimes, the better you know the subject area yourself, the more you see how bad the presentation is, how bad the examples are.
Wikipedia is certainly no exception (in many articles, not all): When I try to make sense of them, I often ask myself: Is there a single person in the world who will understand this - and also will look it up in Wikipedia? If it takes a Master to understand the article, then you probably learned enough in your studies that you know all the stuff in the article!
Some textbook authors are excellent. Some academics, even IT people, have an impressing ability to make even complex issues look easy and obvious to a lesser qualified audience. I wish we had a lot more of those. As long as that is not the case, we will have to cope with explanations that requires a lot of work to be deciphered. Sometimes you ask supplementary questions; sometimes the answer gives you the proper keywords for a google search for more understandable explanations. We won't run into those great pedagogics all the time, and have to live with it.
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Quote: "...I am looking for a solution..."
is it not obvious?
Firstly, this post comes across very arrogant and I personally think that you are limiting your future assistance from most members that have been supporting you loyally in the past in your numerous questions for help.
You might not think that a post from a person/member is related or is a solution to your question but I can almost ensure you that the person/member that took the time, their own free time at that, to answer your question that you found unsolvable saw it as a solution. For you to then question that free time given to your cause is totally unacceptable and I really think you should re-think your post here and offer some kind of apology.
I for one will ignore your future questions and will rather spend my free time helping someone that will appreciate the effort. I also welcome your down vote on this as it will prove my point.
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Andre Oosthuizen wrote: can almost ensure you that the person/member that took the time, their own free time at that, to answer your question that you found unsolvable saw it as a solution See my signature... it should actually be so easy...
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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On this site, this forum is purely social.
On this site, there are other forums [or fora]. Please see top of page.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Salvatore Terress wrote: "...I am looking for a solution..."
is it not obvious? Just to repeat what others are saying, I also know that if I don't see much effort put into the question... like did the poster try A or B or at least Google something first... I'm less inclined to help. Not trying to saying all replies are perfect, and I do agree I've seen some bad ones. But, it's safe to say certainly not all posters are perfect either.
I find if a poster respects the time of the peeps who answer, enough to do just a little work - even if that means writing more than "where codez?" - it does tend to go better. I think... I hope... maybe?
Jeremy Falcon
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That made no sense to me!
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Why would you need CPU memory to read the disk drive?
From looking at their web page, their drives are all SSDs. Open the device, look at the SSD model, and then google the SSD model to see the interface type. Get an SSD enclosure that matches the SSD interface (SATA/M.2-SATA/M.2-NVMe to USB), and connect that to another PC.
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Are you sure that your files are saved in processor memory? I would expect them to be on a rotating or solid state disk.
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Your memory module is a Dynamic random-access memory[^] (the second 'D' in DD4). This type of memory doesn't retain anything the moment power goes down.
As others have said, look for somewhere else where your data is stored.
Mircea
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I have a BeeLink also and yeah they are throw aways.
Open the case up and in the bottom is an SSD.
If you can't put it in your computer you can get one of these SSD-to-USB adapters[^] to retrieve the data.
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I had my first real encounter with an M.2 disk a number of years ago, when a (non-computer-guy) friend asked med for help with some problems with his disk. I opened the case to see the model of the disk, intending to move it to another computer for testing. There was no disk there! At least none that I could see. I was extremely bewildered. Fortunately, the PC was so new that my friend still had the documentation that came with it, and I could read not only that the disk is an M.2, but also where I could find it on the mainboard. Oh, so that's what an M.2 looks like! I had heard mention of M.2, but had never looked up a picture of one, and would not have recognized it without the documentation.
At that time, I obviously didn't have an alternate M.2 reader, but we fixed the problem anyway - it turned out to not be related to the disk.
If you open the case in search of a SATA flash disk, you may not find it. I am not familiar with the machine referred to, and do not know whether to expect SATA or M.2 disk. From Amazon.com it looks as if some BeeLink models have SATA, others have M.2.
Note to OP: M.2 and SATA type flash disks are completely different animals; they need different kinds of adapters. If you buy an M.2 adapter: Some of them have USB-C connectors only. If you want to read the disk on an old PC lacking C sockets, you should make sure that the adapter has that option. Usually, you can expect significantly higher speed on the C socket.
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