Spam and Abuse Watch

29-Sep-18 20:16

Concerning few blogs in the moderation:

~~The first one SQL Server for Dummies Series. I guess this would be counted as spam.~~
[EDIT]: Not spam, counted as a book review which is acceptable.

But then the second one Formatting Dates in T-SQL Using CONVERT with Style Codes. The texts and some of the examples seem to be taken from MSDN

Then the third one Query Primary Key, Unique, and Foreign Key Constraints in T-SQL . Again lots of texts straight from MSDN or similar sources. For example, compare the article and

sys.dm_db_index_operational_stats (Transact-SQL) | Microsoft Docs
Cannot see dm_db_index_physical_stats (the accepted answer)

modified 30-Sep-18 3:43am.

OriginalGriff29-Sep-18 21:22

OriginalGriff

29-Sep-18 21:22

The "Dummies" one I figure as a book review, and as such I have no problems with it - I did an article reviewing three tablets once I'd checked with Chris and he was happy. If he'd written the book, that would be another matter!

The other two ...
The "Formatting ..." blog is plagiarised. A random paragraph shows up identically on MSDN: GETDATE (Transact-SQL) | Microsoft Docs[^]
The "Query ..." blog is plagiarised. Worse, it's plagiarised by typing it in which introduces spelling errors!

So ... on balance, I'd have to go with Plagiarised and Troll.

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Wendelius29-Sep-18 21:45

29-Sep-18 21:45

Thanks for the heads up! I modified the post and also reported the user.

You forgot...

Nelek30-Sep-18 1:19

30-Sep-18 1:19

Nope... you forgot to re-report the user: Rick_Bishop - Professional Profile[^]

BTW, the book review... I went for "poor"

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Re: You forgot...

Wendelius30-Sep-18 8:00

30-Sep-18 8:00

Think I need a few more Java | [Coffee]

Got approved

Nelek30-Sep-18 3:53

Re: Can't actually decide how to report the user - Another in the queue

30-Sep-18 3:53

SQL Server for Dummies Series[^]

M.D.V.

Richard Deeming1-Oct-18 7:57

Richard Deeming

1-Oct-18 7:57

C# 7.0 in a Nutshell[^]

Really not enough to count as a "review" of the book.

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Re: Can't actually decide how to report the user - Another in the queue

User987431-Oct-18 12:44

1-Oct-18 12:44

That review has been updated. I didn't know it sends updates every time I update my blog. Boy, you guys must have all kinds of fuel to your fire if it's been doing that.

User987431-Oct-18 12:41

1-Oct-18 12:41

Yes, that is exactly where the material came from. OF COURSE YOU CAN FIND IT ONLINE.

THERE IS A LINK THAT LEADS TO THE SOURCE OF EVERY SINGLE PART THAT ORIGINATED FROM MICROSOFT DOCUMENTATION.

I put it all of the information in ONE PLACE, rather than forcing the reader to look up everything separately.

Look at the volume of information on there. Do really think I'm so dense that I'd spend all that time copying and pasting without switching it up a bit?

Nelek2-Oct-18 5:33

2-Oct-18 5:33

First of all, try to calm down a bit. I can understand your frustration better than you think, but you are not trying to understand our side at all.

This site has over 10 million users, and gets a huge amount of new items. Many of them are blatant copies of other peoples' work. The moderation process is there to avoid cheaters and try to keep a certain quality standards on the site. We are volunteers trying our best, but at the end we are still normal people and as such, we can still have errors as well.

You have raised a technical issue in the blog consumer, that will surely be fixed as soon as the site admins find the error.
But being honest... Without the needed links you entries don't pass the filter of plagiarism at all. On the other hand... the system works perfectly if you post your blog following some rules and keeping some standards. I can't tell you which, because I am not blogger. But I ensure you I have times seen images with referenced links several times before as the ones you are missing, so the problem is not only in the system, it is on your side too.

On the other hand...
Even when the links were there, in my opinion you are failing the "Not Enough Original Content[^]" so I still consider the report to be valid

And as a last point...
I don't know what you have done wrong if you don't get the notifications (as you claim above), but I do get them.
To be honest, I think that posting:

Quote:
Rick_Bishop has posted a reply to your message at "Spam and Abuse Watch":

You are a retard. I hope voting me down gave you that tiny erection.

To one of the few people speaking with you and trying to get things clear, it is not that good idea.

M.D.V.

User987432-Oct-18 7:32

2-Oct-18 7:32

Imagine yourself having spent a over a year developing this idea to post the sql queries on your hard drive and in your code snippet software, Online. Along with the snippets, I wanted to include more information about alternative SQL Stored procedures and other objects that do the same or similar things. It sucks not having this all in one place in Microsoft docs. Finally, after making all of that happen and looking good, I see that virtually no one has seen my blog since I started it. Hours and hours of writing this past year and only 7 people per week go to my site.

I see that CodeProject has a way to import my feed, but if I do that, is my website going to be penalized for having duplicate content, since the content that shows up on CodeProject is certainly going to be indexed before mine? I don't know. So I bite the bullet and try to get one article published, not really knowing if it will work or how CodeProject will be able to parse the code snippets in my article without downloading the js and css files that go along with it. I decided to give it a try.

After all of the work that was done to get the blog ready to be posted on CodeProject and finally adding the blog on CodeProject, I wait. Then I log back in and two things have happened:

1. Multiple people are publicly calling me a cheater. Like I just copied stuff off of some dude's website. And this is happening on a website that my coworkers and boss are on and my future coworkers and boss might be on as well.
2. I'm being downvoted so that my CodeProject points actually go down after doing this.

And as a bonus, the people reviewing my stuff act like I am the scum bag and they are the police.

Nelek2-Oct-18 10:30

2-Oct-18 10:30

First of all... I am going to answer you here to all your 3 messages, because I am starting to get tired of different threads since I was the only one actually speaking with you

Secondly... this is the last message I am going to write you. Mostly due to the reason that Richard mentions below.

Rick_Bishop wrote:
Imagine yourself having spent a over a year developing this idea to post the

I don't have to imagine anything. I am over 12 years here and I have had and still have ideas that are not published / written yet.

Rick_Bishop wrote:
It sucks not having this all in one place in Microsoft docs.

Yes, I give you that. MSDN can be sometimes a PITA.

Rick_Bishop wrote:
Finally, after making all of that happen and looking good

For the format of your blog, not the CP-Standards.

Rick_Bishop wrote:
I see that virtually no one has seen my blog since I started it.

That's one of the reasons why I don't write a blog

Rick_Bishop wrote:
I see that CodeProject has a way to import my feed, but if I do that, is my website going to be penalized for having duplicate content, since the content that shows up on CodeProject is certainly going to be indexed before mine?

Penalized how? having 5 instead of 7 views a week?

Rick_Bishop wrote:
So I bite the bullet and try to get one article published, not really knowing if it will work or how CodeProject will be able to parse the code snippets in my article without downloading the js and css files that go along with it. I decided to give it a try.

Yes... that's a valid doubt.

Rick_Bishop wrote:
After all of the work that was done to get the blog ready to be posted on CodeProject and finally adding the blog on CodeProject,

As it looks... the work was not enough or not good because you didn't "get the blog ready to be posted on codeproject". If you had, then you wouldn't have had these problems.
Did you ever read the Code Project FAQs/[^]?
There are several entries about blogs:
Code Project Technical Blog FAQ[^]
CodeProject Feed Submission from WordPress[^]
How to Add Excerpts to your WordPress Blog Homepage in a TwentyThirteen Theme and Not Break the Codeproject Importer[^]
or about how the format standards work in the site:
Using the Article Editor (without losing your hair in handfuls)[^]
Article Formatting tips for CodeProject[^]
Formatting code in Tips and Tricks[^]
and the one that has the biggest weight in your actual situation:
CodeProject Plagiarism FAQ[^]

Rick_Bishop wrote:
1. Multiple people are publicly calling me a cheater.

As I said, due to the missing references, yes, you looked like a cheater. Sadly, Code Project has A DAMN BIG amount of real cheaters, that's why we (the community) try to keep the site clean.

Rick_Bishop wrote:
Like I just copied stuff off of some dude's website

Ironically... you might have referenced it in your blog... nice and good, but the fact is: YOU DID COPY CONTENT. Over the half of the content is not your original content. Heck in a couple of them more than 80% is copied. Only because you are the first one thinking on "having this all in one place" it doesn't make the content to magically be YOUR content.

Rick_Bishop wrote:
And this is happening on a website that my coworkers and boss are on and my future coworkers and boss might be on as well.

1) That's the same risk that everyone of us have, not only in Codeproject, but in the whole internet.
2) And exactly for this reason you should have paid a lot more attention to what you do

change of message

Rick_Bishop wrote:
Yes, there isn't enough content in some of my snippets, after you take out the reference info. That's valid.

At least, you recognise it.

Rick_Bishop wrote:
I didn't write it to make it wordy, I posted it to hopefully be useful.

Good intentions are fine, but don't justify everything.

Rick_Bishop wrote:
All of those pages are programatically generated by...

and? (it is a rethoric question, I don't expect or want an answer)

Rick_Bishop wrote:
In setting my RSS feed up for CodeProject, I'm basically submitting all of my work...

yes. it might be your work, but it is not YOUR CONTENT

change of message

Rick_Bishop wrote:
The reason I mention this here is threefold. First, you are acting as a representative of CodeProject in this interaction. Second, you have had opportunity to describe my work and I am taking this opportunity to do the same. Third, in the event that you are a reasonable human being, I might enlighten you as to the nature of the project you've spent so much time publicly tearing apart.

1) I repeat... I am just a particular person part of the users community, I don't work for codeproject nor am I officially representing it.
2) I have no idea what you try to tell me in that sentence, sorry. But reached this point, I don't even care anymore. As I said, this is the last message I am going to write you.
3a) If I were not reasonable, I wouldn't have writen you as I did, trying to explain you things that should be obvious if you were an habitual of the site. Or I wouldn't have writen you this message after your insults and lack of respect you showed.
3b) However I did check your blog (3 of the 7 visits for this week are mine) and saw that you had indeed posted the links, and tried to explain you publicy as well (because that's how the site works, publicy) what the situation is, why it has gone so "bad", tried to give you a couple of advices so we can repair it or writen this huge mesage to explain you the other side of the history.

Sad is... you and your behaviour have killed the "helping" part of me for this topic.

Good bye and have a nice day.

M.D.V.

User987433-Oct-18 18:13

3-Oct-18 18:13

You don't have a blog. That's all you needed to say. Feel free to downvote more of my previously written, unrelated posts to make yourself feel better about that statement.

Nelek4-Oct-18 9:35

4-Oct-18 9:35

I wanted to drop the topic, but you are really taking my patience to the limit. On the other hand, that from all what I have written you the only thing you percieve is

Rick_Bishop wrote:
You don't have a blog. That's all you needed to say.

is just wow, really wow...
As it would make a difference to the topic of the plagiarism or all what I have told you.

Rick_Bishop wrote:
Feel free to downvote more of my previously written, unrelated posts to make yourself feel better about that statement.

There are more than 8 million active users in this site... what makes you think that I am downvoting your previous posts? I am not hiding in any moment. I didn't downvote you. I reported you, there is a big difference.

If you don't believe it... it is your call. I don't care.

M.D.V.

User987432-Oct-18 7:36

2-Oct-18 7:36

Yes, there isn't enough content in some of my snippets, after you take out the reference info. That's valid. I didn't write it to make it wordy, I posted it to hopefully be useful. All of those pages are programatically generated by parsing the comments out of the .sql files, so there isn't going to be much actual content, but I don't need submit everything.

In setting my RSS feed up for CodeProject, I'm basically submitting all of my work for anyone and everyone to download and misappropriate as they see fit. If it were not for codeproject I would only include short descriptions in my RSS feeds.

Richard Deeming2-Oct-18 8:08

Richard Deeming

2-Oct-18 8:08

I see he still hasn't apologised for the unwarranted abuse he directed at you. Sigh | :sigh:

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Wendelius2-Oct-18 8:41

2-Oct-18 8:41

I have no problem believing you didn't deliberately plagiarize the material. However, as explained in CodeProject Plagiarism FAQ, the site has a clear policy what should be considered as plagiarized. Based on the content that was originally in moderation, for me it seemed to lack proper referencing and enough original content as explained in the FAQ.

Putting that aside, why not make modifications to the texts, add some content, and ensure that site policy is met. After doing this, re-publish the results. I believe that with a relatively small amount of changes you can successfully publish articles that benefit us all.

Nelek6-Oct-18 9:05

6-Oct-18 9:05

Wendelius wrote:
Based on the content that was originally in moderation, for me it seemed to lack proper referencing and enough original content as explained in the FAQ.

For future cases... even having the links in place... he would have failed the CodeProject Plagiarism FAQ - Not enough original content[^]

M.D.V.

Wendelius6-Oct-18 20:34

Some spam accounts - gone

6-Oct-18 20:34

Yes, that's what I tried to point out.

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modified 2-Oct-18 11:34am.

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Dave Kreskowiak29-Sep-18 4:50

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29-Sep-18 4:50

What is with people just dumping whatever code they want into Solutions, where their code doesn't have anything to do AT ALL with the question they dredged up?

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Re: Code dumpers

OriginalGriff29-Sep-18 5:03

OriginalGriff

29-Sep-18 5:03

At a guess, rep points. Hence: "Abusive/Trolling"

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