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Munchies_Matt wrote: See how he claims he has the right to express himself yet has decided others don't?
Everybody feels that way; it's part of the human condition.
Grown-ups are aware of it and can deal with it, though.
Don't you think that right now would be a good time to quit winding people up for a while?
Don't push people into making decisions that everyone will regret.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Someone has decided to flag my above posting as abuse
Yeah, the same person responsible for mis-flagging a ton of messages. I'm adding code specifically for his enjoyment.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I never get to work on code that would be that much fun to do.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Chris, you've already replied to my post on the thread in Soapbox, but I wanted to record my vote here.
I have no problem with Matt's sig. Having said that, it's not something that I'd use and in Matt's shoes I'd change it. I'm not Matt though and I don't want him to read that as applying pressure for him to do so.
Thanks for tackling this and for speaking not only to Matt, but also to the parties involved in the down-voting.
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Chris Maunder wrote: aren't interested in a person who just wants to increase my workload without giving back anything to the software developer world
I must remember to stop answering Windows Kernel questions then lest I be too useful. 
Chris Maunder wrote: a link to an online petition that is clearly political, religious and divisive
That's one way of looking at it. The other is that its a request to enforce international law.
So pretty much the entire issue of extremist Islam, which is killing people right now, all round the world, stems from Israel and me like many other people, jews aswell[^], think that returning to the 67 borders with recognition of Palestine and Israel on both sides, and internationally would go a long way to achieving peace (in fact this is Hamas' new position).
So actually I think this petition is fairly important and might help the world achieve peace.
If that's offensive to anyone then I am surprised.
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Rules #4 of the lounge: No politics (including enviro-politics[^]), no sex, no religion. This is a community for software development. There are plenty of other sites that are far more appropriate for these discussions. Or if you must, use the Back Room[^] - but enter at your own risk.
It's very, very simple.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Is a sig a discussion? You allow swear words in sigs, but not in posts in the lounge. Clearly the two re different.
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NO, but you're putting your political message, regardless of how passively you present it, into every single post, even if it is not an appropriate forum for such statements.
Oh, and changing your sig to a picture that is CLEARLY meant for Chris is not going to win you any friends here.
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Regarding your first paragraph: I fully agree. But same you can do on the Profile, ok much more hidden, but possible. In worst case with an special user name/Profile/Picture.
Bruno
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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I think the picture is meant for the univoter. At least I hope so...
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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In any case, it's inappropriate for a signature, no matter who it's meant for.
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I disagree. If swear words are allowed then so should this picture be allowed. Words are just pictures in textual form.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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At least someone gets it! 
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Its NOT meant for Chris! Its meant for whoever the faceless one voters are.
(actualy I thought it amusing, but perhaps only the English understand the English sense of humour. )
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Chris Maunder wrote: use the Back Room[^]
Can't click on that. Is it still available? Is it listed somewhere?
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http://www.codeproject.com/Members/Soap-Box-1-0[^]
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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True, but it's close.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Damn, that hurts.
Gary Kirkham
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
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Does this mean then that every post that mentions politics, sex, or religion should be flagged and reported in here from now on?
Or is it just the politics, sex, and religion that some disagree with that?
Cos there is plenty that gets brought up in the lounge, plenty that just gets ignored, plenty that leads to interesting, adult discussions.
I do not believe that anyone reported the signature in question for flouting the rules, they did so because they object to the anti Isreal sentiment of it. There was an article in the UK recently about how public figures that stand up against Isreal have an unfortunate habit of turning up dead.
I myself had a link to a political petition, albeit a local one, in my sig for quite some time. There was no objection or reporting of that that I am aware of.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Those rules are for the lounge, so you can move politics and others to the soapbox...
The problem is that a signature containing politics going with you everywhere...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Excellent point, and it reinforces the point of this whole discussion: what should we do?
We have rules and we try and enforce them when we're aware of issues. We can't be everywhere all the tine so lots of things get through, with the community generally picking up on the worst of them.
In this particular case it generated quite a bit of email to myself and Sean so we took a look, had a chat with the poster, and then it turned into a debate for the point of having a debate instead of trying to reach mutual understanding.
chriselst wrote: there is plenty that gets brought up in the lounge, plenty that just gets ignored, plenty that leads to interesting, adult discussions
That's the core, right there.
Interesting adult conversations are great. We have multiple forums that cater to multiple different topics. We have C# for C#, VB for VB, and the Soapbox for all the big political, religious ans sexual (sometimes at the same time) debates. The lounge is like the front room. Everyone's polite, everyone should be respecting everyone else, and everyone should have a decent, relaxing time.
If they want to start getting into a good, down-and-dirty debate then move to the side and go for it. But don't have it in the doorway.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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And thank you for your honesty and stating what is obviously true. It isn't politics, its the anti Israel right wing sentiment that objectionable, and clearly the attempt to repress it is the most blatant form of bias and mob censoring.
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Your current signature-link (as in this post) is your doing, or someone hacked in?
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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