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Tom Welch4-Dec-02 6:39

4-Dec-02 6:39

Anyone using it?

AppUpdater[^]

I am having a few problems with it and GOTDOTNET appears to have broken their message boards.

PROBLEMS:

1. Kinda works when debugging, however it always tells me there is an update available - even when server has the same version as client.

2. Fails miserably in Release mode.

I have an UpdateVersion.xml on the server that says the next version is 2.0.0.0 and in the /2.0.0.0/ directory. However, the program downloads the 1.0.0.0 version from the /1.0.0.0/ directory. On top of that, it puts the update in a /1.0.0.0_1/ directory on the client. Which is curious because it downloads the UpdateVersion.xml file from the server that contains the 2.0.0.0 information. The log file just keeps repeating "Successfully updated version 1.0.0.0"

WTF | :WTF:

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If it starts to make sense, you're in a cult.

Re: That AppUpdater thing from GotDotNet

Nathan Tran4-Dec-02 6:46

Nathan Tran

4-Dec-02 6:46

Hi,

If you log into irc on Efnet and go to #ms.net you can ask either ^CareBear or Wilco about this since they've dissected this example and even made their own variant.

Nathan.

Clientside UserControl

Peter Kiss4-Dec-02 2:45

Peter Kiss

4-Dec-02 2:45

Hi!

I have a real problem. (Sorry for my english.)
I want to make a client side usercontrol like an activexobject
with C#. ( Client has framework too)
There are several examples on the net
(http://www.mastercsharp.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=70&&TopicID=14
...etc).

!!!BUT!!!

Never worked any of them!
I open the website, and the control seems like to be a simple textarea!
I suggested, there was a problem withinternet options.
But all of them (Local intranet zone, and internetzone are allowed for everything,IIS settings are more than correct for enableaing everything to do with the site. And there is no control.)

Please help me! Maybe the settings of the trusted assemblies of the framework are bad??? or what's wrong with that?

( some enviromental:
.NET studio 7.0.9466
framework 1.0.37.05
IE 6.2800.1106 /SP1;Q328970
Win2k server 5.00.2195 SP3)

Time getting to be to late! Please Help Me!!!

Agyklon

Re: Clientside UserControl

John Rayner4-Dec-02 7:34

John Rayner

4-Dec-02 7:34

Security is your problem. The default security setup on a .NET install assigns no permissions to code downloaded from the Internet (specifically the permission group Nothing). Your options are:

Reconfigure the security on your machine (not really recommended)
Add your site into the list of Trusted Sites

You can configure your security settings by opening the .NET Framework Configuration console (under Programs / Administrative Tools on my Win2K box) and then open Runtime Security Policy / Machine / Code Groups / All_Code / Internet Zone, click on Edit Code Group Properties and go to the Permission Set tab. Here you can choose what permissions to allow code downloaded from the Internet. For a really good explanation of all this, check out Don Box's excellent MSDN Magazine article[^].

Adding your site to the list of Trusted Sites is done through Tools / Inernet Options / Security from Internet Explorer.

Either way there's going to some setup needed on machines accessing your site. Sorry.

I seem to recall that the default security policy changed in SP1. Not entirely sure of this though. And I don't really know much about what happened in SP2.

Re: Clientside UserControl - without success

Peter Kiss6-Dec-02 5:09

Peter Kiss

6-Dec-02 5:09

Hi.
It's me again, Peter.

I've tried an other lot of couple variations of settings,
at the adminstration tool, without any success. Cry | :((

I've rebuilded the code.
The site is trusted as well,as the code is trusted.
I haven't any more idea.

Maybe I should ask the Microsoft for it. Or have you done a real working example before?
I haven't seen any example before, what works. Unsure | :~

well..

Please help if you have done some working client side usercontrol!
Please tell me the steps where I was fault.

(Sorry for my english Eek! | :eek:

)

Agyklon

Re: Clientside UserControl - without success 2

Peter Kiss7-Dec-02 5:33

Peter Kiss

7-Dec-02 5:33

Hi!
It's me again.

I found sum helpstuff:
[1] - http://www.gotdotnet.com/team/windowsforms/iesourcing.aspx
[2] - http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/02/01/UserCtrl/default.aspx

At the IIS was something wrong. ([1]/3.)
There must be only for script executeing rights.

Now, the control is downloaded.
I can found it the cache: gacutil /ldl
but, i can't see everything, it appeares like just a missplaced image.
Site is trusted, there is new codegroup rights, and
i can found all of the rights at
framework configuration/runtime sec/right click/evaluate assembly.

suggestion:
more missconfigured parameters at IIS???
OMG | :OMG:

Agyklon

Re: Clientside UserControl - without success 2

John Rayner7-Dec-02 12:45

John Rayner

7-Dec-02 12:45

Try also looking at http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/02/06/Rich/default.aspx[^]. This will provide you with a sample download that you can play with.

Assuming you have everything setup properly, my next guess would be that your code is throwing an exception that it is not handling. This could be because of security (see below) or simply a problem with your code. Make sure you have try..catch blocks everywhere and try attaching VS.NET to IE before you load your web page - this may enable you to debug your control.

Your code will run in a partially trusted environment, so certain things (e.g. disk access, registry access, web access anywhere other than the site where your control lives) are off limits. Your code will throw an exception (probably a System.Security.SecurityException) if it attempts these tasks.

using the KeyEventArgs.Handled prop

djkno34-Dec-02 2:35

djkno3

4-Dec-02 2:35

Bet you guys love me now huh? Laugh | :laugh:

How is this used MSDN says squat about it (ok not squat but it might as well be Big Grin | :-D

). I remember reading somwhere in one of my books about it being able to tell windows you will be handling certain key presses (like the cursor keys) so it will not take over in the next hooking phase. But dammed if I can find out...

Re: using the KeyEventArgs.Handled prop

Nathan Tran4-Dec-02 6:53

Nathan Tran

4-Dec-02 6:53

Hi,

This may help. For the KeyPress event of the control:

private void tbMsg_KeyPress(object sender, System.Windows.Forms.KeyPressEventArgs e)
{
if( e.KeyChar == ( char )13 ) // (char)13 is the return key.
{
// Tell the system that the keypress has been handled.
e.Handled = true;
// Do something. Here I'm simulating a button press.
button1_Click( this, e );
}
}

Nathan.

constraining somthing in a panel control

djkno34-Dec-02 2:11

djkno3

4-Dec-02 2:11

I'm trying to constrain a graphics object in a panel control (like drawing a square that moves in the panel that stops at the panel line) I am trying to use the Panel.Left and Panel.Right etc in a

if (x <= Panel.Left)<br />
x = x - 10;<br />
else x = Panel.Left;

but it is not constrained by this... Is there another way? The rectangle structure is Rectangle(x,y,10,10)

Re: constraining somthing in a panel control

Kannan Kalyanaraman4-Dec-02 19:10

Kannan Kalyanaraman

4-Dec-02 19:10

My guess is you will have to use a combination of mousecapture and hittest.

Cheers
Kannan

Re: constraining somthing in a panel control

djkno35-Dec-02 1:29

djkno3

5-Dec-02 1:29

I figured it out Big Grin | :-D

my problem wasn't that I was going outside the panel it was the line redrawing when it hit the side and erasing the part by the panel.

How to programmatically trigger an event?

yccheok3-Dec-02 16:11

yccheok

3-Dec-02 16:11

how to programmatically trigger off an menu item
event?

someone told me that i should
-----------------------------
System.EventArgs args = new System.EventArgs();

this.menuitem1_Click(this, args);
-----------------------------

but i dont think this is correct since this is just executing an event instead of triggering it. Frown | :(

thank you.

regards
yccheok

Re: How to programmatically trigger an event?

Not Active3-Dec-02 16:27

Not Active

3-Dec-02 16:27

You don't really want to trigger the event, you want to execute the code in the event handler. If this is something you will be doing often then have the event handler call another function or object method, which you can also call when needed.

Re: How to programmatically trigger an event?

Jeff J3-Dec-02 16:27

Jeff J

3-Dec-02 16:27

Same thing in the end. "Triggering" an event due to the user pressing a key or clicking a mouse, eventually causes the event handler (menuitem1_Click in your case) to be executed. Actually, executing directly is much more efficient than when a user causes the event handler to fire.

Cheers

Re: How to programmatically trigger an event?

Anonymous4-Dec-02 7:21

Anonymous

4-Dec-02 7:21

MenuItems have a PerformClick() method that might be what you're looking for. link[^]

Design Patterns

John Rayner3-Dec-02 7:40

John Rayner

3-Dec-02 7:40

Having just read Liong's article about using the Observer pattern for a chat server, I don't think that this pattern is appropriate for a situation involving remoting. After all, the GoF patterns were all about object interactions within an app.

Other than the Wiki (http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki[^]) which does my head in trying to find anything sensible on it Dead | X|

, does anyone know of a catalogue of design patterns? E.g. some that apply to Remoting situations, others applying to other problem domains, etc.

Re: Design Patterns

Chris Austin3-Dec-02 10:03

Chris Austin

3-Dec-02 10:03

John,

I have some links on C# application of design patterns.
http://www.dofactory.com/patterns/Patterns.aspx[^]http://www.clipcode.net/components/snippets.htm[^]http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/01/07/patterns/default.aspx[^]
I'm not sure if these will help you out with remoting as they seem to be mostly the GOF patterns.

I'd suggest checking out http://safari.oreilly.com/[^] and see if any of the Pattern books there are helpful.

Chris

Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.

Re: Design Patterns

Jarrod Marshall4-Dec-02 7:42

Jarrod Marshall

4-Dec-02 7:42

There is a book called C# Design Patterns - A Tutorial that I have found really good.
It basically goes through the GoF patterns using C# examples.

Jarrod

Unicode Characters

Jassim Rahma3-Dec-02 6:25

Jassim Rahma

3-Dec-02 6:25

I have arabic text in textBox1 and I need to convert it to Unicode in textBox2? is there any easy & fast way to do it?

Many Thanks,
Jassim rahma

Re: Unicode Characters

Nick Parker3-Dec-02 8:08

Nick Parker

3-Dec-02 8:08

Take a look at the System.Text.UnicodeEncoding class. Smile | :)

Nick Parker

Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein

Remoting: Inter object communication.

Nathan Tran3-Dec-02 6:07

Nathan Tran

3-Dec-02 6:07

Hi,

I'm trying to code a chat server that supports tcp/udp connections as well as connections through remoting if the client is behind a firewall. How can I implement the server so that it will support both types of clients? The problem is that remoting requires the server object to be activated by the client but I need the server to be running all the time to support clients that are not using remoting to connect to it.

So the question is, how does an pre-existing object ( instantiated before the activation of the remoting object ) communicate with an object that is activated remotely by a client? The existing object and the activated object are in the same application domain ( I presume ).

This problem has been bugging me for days. I searched the net and there are a whole bunch of remoting tutorials, but none touches on this particular subject. Hopefully, some one here has a clue.

Nathan.

Re: Remoting: Inter object communication.

John Rayner3-Dec-02 8:04

John Rayner

3-Dec-02 8:04

Well, if I understand you correctly you are trying to get your chat server to send a message to the chat client. This message would probably be a new posting to the current discussion. Not having done this before, I'm probably a little out of my depth but here goes anyway ...

Firewalls are obviously going to limit a direct TCP / UDP connection from the server to the client so that option is out. That means that all communication has to be initiated by the chat client. So two options spring to mind:

Have the client poll the server every so often - you don't really get instant chat here and the closer you get to it (i.e. by polling more frequently) the more it clogs up your network and your server.
Have the client initiate an asynchronous request to the server which blocks until the server services it. Then, when a new message comes in to the server it hands the message off to the client. The client sees the response come back and immediately opens another async request.
You'll need a reliable way of identifying individual clients - if you're concerned about firewalls then I don't think IP address will be good enough. Probably each client would need to get an ID from the server and send that along with every request made.

I'd say the second is preferable from a network traffic and immediacy point of view, but it probably won't scale with the number of users (e.g. 5000 users = 5000 connections at the server waiting to be filled). But then who'd want to be in a discussion with 5000 people?!? It will also make the server quite complex to implement as it will have to keep track of which messages have been passed out to which clients. Also, if you have a very active discussion, the client may struggle to keep up - this could be avoided by each client having a number of outstanding requests to the server, but that would further limit the scalability.

Anybody else have any other ideas?

Re: Remoting: Inter object communication.

Nathan Tran3-Dec-02 10:41

Nathan Tran

3-Dec-02 10:41

John,

AFAIK .NET remoting supports serialization of client objects across channel by reference. I am banking on this reference to the client object to maintain a "connection" between server-client. To send a message back to the client I can simply call clientObjectRef.MsgServicingDelegate( Msg ); Indeed this solution will pose a scalability issue since, in affect, the client maintains an open channel with the server. Is this a wise solution? To what extent is the overhead required to maintain an open httpChannel? More importantly, how does the underlying framework acheives this feat?

Nathan.

Re: Remoting: Inter object communication.

John Rayner4-Dec-02 0:33

John Rayner

4-Dec-02 0:33

Well, I wrote a little test app to try what you are suggesting and it didn't work. I got the very long error message "

This remoting proxy has no channel sink which means either the server has no registered server channels that are listening, or this application has no suitable client channel to talk to the server.

". Hats off to MS for at least trying to make their error messages informative ... Wink | ;)

A little digging on the web revealed a sample chapter from a Wrox book (http://www.wrox.com/books/sample-chapters/SampleChapter_186100740x.pdf[^]) which discusses a similar problem. If you look on page 24 of the PDF you'll see that they set the client app with a Remoting channel in order for the server to communicate with the client.

Once I'd modified my test app in this way, everything worked. However, I very much doubt that this will work if there's a firewall in the middle of the connection (which was the problem we were discussing).

Use Ctrl+Left/Right to switch messages, Ctrl+Up/Down to switch threads, Ctrl+Shift+Left/Right to switch pages.