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IBM tried this - it was called VisualAge[^]. It used a pictorial representation of programming elements. Lines connecting the elements represented relationships, like assignments and events. It all sounded so very cool.
Until you discovered that VisualAge gave you no way to document what you were doing: no comments.
Until you discovered that any significant task resulted in dozens of boxes connected by hundreds of lines in an incomprehensible mess.
Until you discovered that VisualAge applications were glacially slow to start up and to run.
Until you discovered that VisualAge stored your project in a data base, and it routinely corrupted that data base destroying your entire project. We got into the habit of copying the data base before any significant change. In some cases, the corruption was silent, and would not crash the project until later. You would have to backtrack to find the last truly "working" version.
At one time, the VisualAge team was #1 on my list of development-teams-put-against-the-wall-when-the-revolution-comes.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Scratch and about a billion other teach-kids-to-program appreciation use this paradigm - and it is becoming more popular to learn.
And things like it have been around for a long time.
Perhaps someone will eventually 'get it right' - I notice that there's a new Minecraft modding system allowing you to mod minecraft in Javascript, using either drag and drop or hand-writing code; If it allows one to customise code, it may be the beginnings of something - but I think we might be a few years away.
Then we'll all just continue what we're doing now, except there will be a lot more images posted in Q&A 
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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Hang on. Didn't Microsoft say they 'loved' Linux?
And, surprise surprise, they've given it the seat by the kitchen doors again.
Still. The Microsoft restaurant serves junk food anyway. 
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I dunno. There's another?
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When I first learned BASIC in the '80s, the only structure available was the array, so we had to use that and build up more complex structures, but that's just not necessary with C#, OOP, and Collections. So I am saddened to these posts from the last few days:
"Int32[] playerNumbers, String[] playerLastName, Int32[] playerPoints" --
Arrays how to delete multiple entries[^]
"Int32[] playerNumbers, ref Int32 playerCount, String[] playerLastName, Int32[] playerPoints" --
Cannot convert type int[] to int[^]
"Int32[] playerNumbers, ref Int32 playerCount, String[] playerLastName, Int32[] playerPoints" --
delete method not deleting[^]
"Array carPark[10][2];" --
What Is Wrong With The Code And Why Doesnt It Run When I Try To Run It In C#[^]
Those first two are the same member, the third probably is as well.
The fourth is at least using a two-dimensional array, but he obviously copied it from somewhere and has no idea what it is.
Oh, sweet Bob, they keep coming...
"public string[][] Select(string query)" --
How to return array or list 2 dimensional from SQL Query[^]
WTF!?
"ProcessDelete(Int32[] playerNumbers, ref Int32 playerCount, String[] playerLastName, Int32[] playerPoints )"
method for copying array into new array[^]
And they just keep coming:
"ProcessDelete(Int32[] playerNumbers, ref Int32 playerCount, String[] playerLastName, Int32[] playerPoints)"
Trouble With Arrays And For Loops[^]
"DeletePlayer(Int32[] playerNumbers, String[] playerLastName, Int32[] playerPoints, ref Int32 playerCount, Int32 MAXPLAYERS)"
For loops and decrement with arrays[^]
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Looking at that last one there are several things wrong with it.
If this is a school project then perhaps it is the teacher that needs pulled out of the 80's
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ledtech3 wrote: If this is a school project
That's very likely.
ledtech3 wrote: teacher that needs pulled out of the 80's
Indeed. I know I'm old-school, but this is a ridiculous level of archeology.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: I know I'm old-school
ftfy
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: When I first learned BASIC in the '80s, the only structure available was the array,
Then C introduced the struct.
Then C++ decided struct should have methods, and called it a class and added all sorts of other artifacts (inheritance, polymorphism, and encapsulation.)
Then came along relational databases, and we were introduced in C# to a newfangled way of working with structures, the DataTable, DataView and DataSet, but those caused impedence mismatches so a new artifact was born, the ORM.
Then the jar-heads decided to inflict themselves on the process because this was all too complicated and created JSON, a string "structure" that took us back to the BASIC 80's of untyped data and structure encoded in the string itself. Simultaneously, the "kids" (who were not even a glimmer in the eyes of their parents in the 80's) decided that relational databases were bad and gave us NoSQL, which, guess what, uses JSON, is document oriented and requires client-side callbacks to "join" data across documents.
And this is called progress.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: Then C introduced the struct.
Exactly, even Pascal has records (?), variant records as well.
Of course in Perl you'd have to use a hash (  ), but at least it's something.
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To say nothing of COBOL.
No please, say nothing of COBOL!
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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I didn't. I didn't even think it. Until now, thank you very little.
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Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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I'd heard of COBOL.NET, but since I last touched COBOL almost 30 years ago I though I'd do a quick search. I found this:
program-id. Program1 as "ConsoleHelloWorld.Program1".
data division.
working-storage section.
procedure division.
display "Hello World"
goback.
end program Program1.
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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You can use COBOL to write restful webservices these days...
http://azac.pl/cobol-on-wheelchair/[^]
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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You can probably go from Land's End to John O'Groats on a unicycle, but should you!
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Depends on how important the charity you're sponsoring is to you. Apparently it can be done in less than 9 days in a wheelchair, so you'd only have to take one week of work off.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan, I said Quote: You can probably go from Land's End to John O'Groats on a unicycle.
I can't even ride one.
Let me know when you're going, I'll chip in some sponsorship!
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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If you can find me a 50k sponsorship I'll learn to ride and start on the 32nd of Nevember. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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If I could find a 50k sponsorship I'd learn to ride one myself.
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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COBOL's a pleasure compared to RPG !!! (IBM AS/400 for example)
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I've never "played" with RPG (unless we're talking Doom!), but I've had my time with AS400 "screen scrapes".
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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heh - I love the way people say 'this is right, wrong, do it this way' but at the end of the day, if that's the only way you can make it happen, well ...
so good on you for 'screen scrapes'
'Mr Pragmatic'
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